Factbase Transcripts

Nicolle Wallace

Very Positive

00:00:00-00:00:05 (6 sec)

"-- Saturday. Without further ado, the 46th president of the United States, Joe Biden. Thank you for being here." 1

Joe Biden

Somewhat Positive

00:00:05-00:00:06 (1 sec)

"Thank you for having me." 2

Nicolle Wallace

Very Positive

00:00:06-00:00:08 (2 sec)

"This is very exciting for us." 3

Joe Biden

Positive

00:00:08-00:00:09 (1 sec)

"It's exciting for me. [Laughter]" 4

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:00:09-00:00:21 (12 sec)

"You said today -- and I know that you have a lot of power, but I can't imagine you manufactured the breaking news about the court. You said this court is not normal. What did you mean?" 5

Joe Biden

Neutral

00:00:21-00:00:50 (29 sec)

"What I meant by that is, it's done more to unravel basic rights and basic decisions than any court in recent history. And that's what I meant by not normal. It's gone out of its way to -- I mean, for example, take a look at overruling Roe v. Wade. Take a look at what -- the decision today. Take a look at how it's -- how it's ruled on a number of issues that are -- have been precedent for 50, 60 years sometimes." 6

Joe Biden

Neutral

00:00:50-00:00:52 (2 sec)

"And that's what I meant by not normal." 7

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:00:52-00:00:55 (3 sec)

"Can I read you some of your appointees' dissent?" 8

Joe Biden

Positive

00:00:55-00:00:56 ( sec)

"Yes." 9

Nicolle Wallace

Leans Positive

00:00:56-00:01:20 (24 sec)

"Because I think it will be in the history books, along with this decision. Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson said in part -- quote -- "With let them eat cake obliviousness today, the majority pulls the rip cord and announces colorblindness for all by legal fiat. But deeming race irrelevant in law does not make it so in life." It's so simple..." 10

Joe Biden

Neutral

00:01:20-00:01:21 (1 sec)

"She's right." 11

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:01:21-00:01:25 (4 sec)

"...but so right. How did the six get it so wrong?" 12

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

00:01:25-00:01:32 (7 sec)

"Well, I -- that's -- look, remember the Federalist Society when you were in another administration, in another..." 13

Nicolle Wallace

Very Positive

00:01:32-00:01:33 (1 sec)

"In another party, yes." 14

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

00:01:33-00:01:35 (2 sec)

"Well, I didn't mean it that way. [Laughter]" 15

Nicolle Wallace

Positive

00:01:35-00:01:36 (1 sec)

"It's OK." 16

Joe Biden

Neutral

00:01:36-00:01:44 (8 sec)

"Because -- but the Federalist Society has -- had a very, very strict construction of the Constitution." 17

Nicolle Wallace

Positive

00:01:44-00:01:45 ( sec)

"Yes." 18

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

00:01:45-00:02:12 (27 sec)

"And if it didn't use the word, it didn't exist. But this administration -- this court has gone beyond that. And I just find it -- I don't know how to express it -- find it just so out of sorts with the basic value system of the American people. And I think that, across the board, the vast majority of the American people don't agree with a lot of the decisions this court is making." 19

Nicolle Wallace

Somewhat Positive

00:02:12-00:02:23 (11 sec)

"I mean, I think some -- some of your former Senate colleagues on the Judiciary Committee would go as far as to say that it's antidemocratic. Do you agree with that?" 20

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

00:02:23-00:02:26 (3 sec)

"Well, if I say it's antidemocratic, then it gets... [Crosstalk]" 21

Nicolle Wallace

Negative

00:02:26-00:02:27 (2 sec)

"Get in a lot of trouble. [Laughter]" 22

Joe Biden

Very Positive

00:02:27-00:02:50 (23 sec)

"No, no, but it is -- its value system is different, and its respects for institutions is different. And, in that sense, it is not as embracing of all what I think the Constitution -- the Constitution says, we hold these truths to be self-evident, all men and women are created equal, endowed by their creator." 23

Joe Biden

Very Negative

00:02:50-00:03:15 (25 sec)

"It's the uniqueness of America. We never fully lived up to it, but we never walked away from it. And this court seems to say that now that's not always the case, the idea there's no right of privacy in the Constitution, giving states power that we fought a war over in 1960. You know, I just think it's -- this is not your father's Republican Party." 24

Nicolle Wallace

Slightly Positive

00:03:15-00:03:22 (7 sec)

"Well, and to that point, Roe and Casey are decided with justices appointed by Democrats and Republicans." 25

Joe Biden

Positive

00:03:22-00:03:23 ( sec)

"Yes." 26

Nicolle Wallace

Very Positive

00:03:23-00:03:31 (8 sec)

"And these opinions that land outside the range of public opinion in our country are super conservative majority decisions. They're 6-3 on Dobbs." 27

Joe Biden

Positive

00:03:31-00:03:31 ( sec)

"Yes." 28

Nicolle Wallace

Very Positive

00:03:31-00:03:42 (11 sec)

"They're 6-3 on affirmative action. Does it require -- I mean, does your love and reverence for our institutions make you do a hard thing and look at shaking up the institutions? Will you look at court reform again?" 29

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

00:03:42-00:04:13 (31 sec)

"Well, I did look at -- here's two things. Before I got elected, while I put together a group of constitutional scholars to try to expand the court, which I think is a mistake after all -- the judgment was, that doesn't make sense, because it can become so politicized in the future. But so what I have done is, I have -- in my appointments, I have appointed 136 judges and found ourselves in a situation where I pick people who are from various backgrounds." 30

Joe Biden

Very Positive

00:04:13-00:04:40 (27 sec)

"We have appointed more women to the appellate courts, black women to the appellate courts, than every other president in American history, not just Ketanji Brown, but more than any across the board. We have also -- I wanted to make sure that we had on the court -- and Republicans have been appointed to the court by us as well -- on the court, wanted to have public defenders, people who have been on the other side of the equation, so that everyone's represented." 31

Joe Biden

Very Negative

00:04:40-00:04:54 (14 sec)

"There's a point of view to be able to be made. And -- but, listen, there's no -- I have no hard test to say you must have this. I never ask a nominee, what's their position on A, B, C, or D?" 32

Nicolle Wallace

Slightly Negative

00:04:54-00:04:55 (1 sec)

"No litmus test." 33

Joe Biden

Slightly Negative

00:04:55-00:04:56 (1 sec)

"No litmus test." 34

Nicolle Wallace

Very Negative

00:04:56-00:05:06 (10 sec)

"Do you worry that, without court reform, this conservative majority is too young and too conservative, that they might do too much harm?" 35

Joe Biden

Neutral

00:05:06-00:05:21 (15 sec)

"Oh, I think they may do too much harm, but I think, if we start the process of trying to expand the court, we're going to politicize it, maybe forever, in a way that is not healthy." 36

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:05:21-00:05:22 (1 sec)

"That you can't get back?" 37

Joe Biden

Very Positive

00:05:22-00:05:49 (26 sec)

"That I can't get back. And I think -- look, I think -- maybe it's just the optimist in me. I think that some of the court are beginning to realize their legitimacy is being questioned in ways it hadn't been questioned in the past. And I think there's a concern on some, maybe even the chief justice, that maybe, maybe we better..." 38

Nicolle Wallace

Very Positive

00:05:49-00:05:54 (6 sec)

"Well, in the independent legislatures decision, it looks like maybe Roberts had that in mind?" 39

Joe Biden

Neutral

00:05:54-00:05:55 (1 sec)

"I don't know that." 40

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:05:55-00:05:56 (1 sec)

"I don't either. [Laughter]" 41

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:05:56-00:05:56 (1 sec)

"But you could..." 42

Joe Biden

Positive

00:05:56-00:05:57 (1 sec)

"But that's what I'm hoping." 43

Nicolle Wallace

Very Positive

00:05:57-00:05:58 (1 sec)

"The optimist could hope so, right." 44

Joe Biden

Very Positive

00:05:58-00:05:59 (1 sec)

"The optimist hopes so." 45

Nicolle Wallace

Very Positive

00:05:59-00:06:21 (21 sec)

"Let me ask you about an institution that we spend a lot of time covering here, and that's the Justice Department. "The Washington Post" recently reported that it took the Justice Department seeing Cassidy Hutchinson's public testimony, which was a year ago yesterday, to really focus on Trump and his innermost circle's role in the January 6 coup plot." 46

Nicolle Wallace

Very Positive

00:06:21-00:06:32 (11 sec)

"You have awarded medals to Harry Dunn and Officer Fanone and the others. Do they deserve to know why it took the Justice Department a year to open an investigation into the person that incited the insurrection?" 47

Joe Biden

Leans Positive

00:06:32-00:06:54 (22 sec)

"Look, I made a commitment that I would not in any way interfere with the Justice Department, who they prosecuted, if they prosecuted, how they proceeded. I have not spoken once, not one single time with the attorney general, on any specific case, not once. And -- but I do talk to him about law enforcement and all those other things." 48

Joe Biden

Leans Negative

00:06:54-00:07:11 (18 sec)

"But the point is that I just think we -- there have been -- there's what I mean about interfering in institutions. The last administration tried to direct the court, tried to push the court, I mean, whether it was the Fed or the court or institutions, that are supposed to say, hands off. That's why I have never engaged in that." 49

Joe Biden

Neutral

00:07:11-00:07:13 (2 sec)

"And it's not my role to do that." 50

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:07:13-00:07:25 (12 sec)

"But when you talk about strengthening democracies at home and abroad, do other democratic leaders want to know why the foot soldiers of the insurrection have been charged and prosecuted, but not the leader?" 51

Joe Biden

Very Positive

00:07:25-00:07:44 (19 sec)

"Well, I -- the answer is yes, but here's my answer. The court -- I have faith the Justice Department will move in a direction that is consistent with the law. And so it may take time, but I have faith that they're going to do the right -- but I have not spoken about it, and I don't think I should." 52

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:07:44-00:08:01 (17 sec)

"And I think that, again, is sort of this reverence for the institutions and the norms. And I guess the bet is that the public will see the difference between you and, should you run against Donald Trump again, someone that -- actually, not even Donald Trump. Ron DeSantis wants to completely direct investigations." 53

Nicolle Wallace

Positive

00:08:01-00:08:12 (11 sec)

"Do you think that your next message to the country, the contrast is even sharper than the soul of the nation? You have got the other party openly running on politicizing the rule of law." 54

Joe Biden

Somewhat Negative

00:08:12-00:08:34 (22 sec)

"Well, the answer is, I think that is a big -- it's going to be a major issue. You may remember -- I know you remember, because you have spoken about it -- when I ran in 2020, I made a speech on the threat to democracy, and I made it at the -- in Philadelphia at Independence Hall. And a lot of the press said, what's he talking about this for?" 55

Joe Biden

Neutral

00:08:34-00:08:36 (3 sec)

"A lot of -- not just the press, others. Why is he talking about this?" 56

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:08:36-00:08:38 (2 sec)

"It's not a kitchen table issue." 57

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

00:08:38-00:08:42 (4 sec)

"That's right. But guess what? Sixty-seven percent of the American people thought it was important." 58

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:08:42-00:08:42 ( sec)

"Correct." 59

Joe Biden

Very Positive

00:08:42-00:09:04 (22 sec)

"They worry about it. They do worry about it. And I think that it's important that they know that my value set is very different than this new MAGA Republican Party. And I really think it -- I -- look, I know you're going to think I'm a little naive here after all these years, but I have great faith in the instincts of the American people." 60

Joe Biden

Very Positive

00:09:04-00:09:26 (22 sec)

"I really do. I believe ordinary people are decent and honorable. If you appeal to them, they will do the right thing. And I think that's -- and the other thing is, Nicolle, there's a lot of good that's happening. For example, 60-some percent of the American people have greater job satisfaction than they have had in the high, what, 15th, or whatever the number is, 30 years." 61

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:09:26-00:09:27 (1 sec)

"Mm-hmm." 62

Joe Biden

Very Positive

00:09:27-00:09:45 (18 sec)

"I know the polling numbers are not good, but they were the same way when I ran and won. Everybody thought I was going to get clobbered in a primary. I got 80 million votes in the last election. And the same thing -- I remember I was saying that I thought the Democratic Party was going to do extremely well in the off-year election." 63

Nicolle Wallace

Positive

00:09:45-00:09:46 (2 sec)

"In the midterms, yes." 64

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

00:09:46-00:10:07 (21 sec)

"And other than the Bushes (ph), it did. I mean, and it was a great -- and a victory by not having a significant loss. We were going to lose 40 seats and all that. I just think that it's a matter of -- and this is not a criticism of press. It's an observation. There's a lot to be worried about around the world." 65

Joe Biden

Very Positive

00:10:07-00:10:17 (9 sec)

"And talking to a lot of reporters, they tell me -- I better be careful what I say here. [Laughter]" 66

Joe Biden

Slightly Negative

00:10:17-00:10:22 (6 sec)

"A number of reporters have indicated that there's no editors anymore..." 67

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:10:22-00:10:23 (1 sec)

"Huh." 68

Joe Biden

Somewhat Positive

00:10:23-00:10:51 (29 sec)

"...on what they do. And I had one reporter tell me that: "You know, I'm a reporter, but I got my -- one of my editors of the newspaper came to me and said: 'You don't have a brand yet. You need' -- and it was a major newspaper. And he said: "Well, I'm not an editorial writer." "But you need a brand so people will watch you and listen to you because of what they think you're going to say." And I just think there's a lot changing." 69

Joe Biden

Very Negative

00:10:51-00:11:12 (21 sec)

"Before, I wasn't going to run for office again. Now, I mean for real. I know that's -- people wanted -- but my son had died. I was teaching at the University of Pennsylvania, and I had a significant budget to hire a lot of people for the Biden Democracy up there, from Tony Blinken to others that came along." 70

Joe Biden

Leans Negative

00:11:12-00:11:33 (20 sec)

"And what I found was that it was -- it was awfully hard to stay silent when I saw those people coming out of the woods. I mean, literally, I -- you never think -- you never think you will see people on -- in Charlottesville, Virginia..." 71

Nicolle Wallace

Leans Negative

00:11:33-00:11:34 (1 sec)

"Without the hoods, yes." 72

Joe Biden

Neutral

00:11:34-00:11:37 (4 sec)

"...coming out of the woods with the lighted torches, carrying swastikas." 73

Nicolle Wallace

Slightly Positive

00:11:37-00:11:42 (5 sec)

"Well, the Anti-Defamation League says that, even since then, incidents of antisemitism are on the rise." 74

Joe Biden

Neutral

00:11:42-00:11:46 (4 sec)

"That's why I started a whole new initiative on antisemitism." 75

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:11:46-00:11:47 (1 sec)

"Right." 76

Joe Biden

Neutral

00:11:47-00:11:56 (10 sec)

"But my point is that, when the president -- let's talk about values. When the president of the United States, when that young woman was killed, stand -- a bystander..." 77

Nicolle Wallace

Positive

00:11:56-00:11:57 (1 sec)

"Heather Heyer, yes." 78

Joe Biden

Very Positive

00:11:57-00:12:07 (9 sec)

"Yes. And I talked to her mom. And he was asked, can you -- what's happened down there, he said there are very good people on both sides." 79

Nicolle Wallace

Positive

00:12:07-00:12:09 (2 sec)

"Yes." 80

Joe Biden

Positive

00:12:09-00:12:11 (2 sec)

"Very good people on both sides?" 81

Nicolle Wallace

Very Positive

00:12:11-00:12:16 (5 sec)

"Yes. Well, John Kelly's face told it all, right?" 82

Joe Biden

Neutral

00:12:16-00:12:16 ( sec)

"Oh. [Laughter]" 83

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:12:16-00:12:17 (2 sec)

"His head in his hands. I want... [Crosstalk]" 84

Joe Biden

Leans Negative

00:12:17-00:12:19 (2 sec)

"No, but it did. But think..." 85

Nicolle Wallace

Positive

00:12:19-00:12:20 (1 sec)

"Yes." 86

Joe Biden

Neutral

00:12:20-00:12:21 (2 sec)

"But think about what that says..." 87

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:12:21-00:12:22 ( sec)

"Right." 88

Joe Biden

Positive

00:12:22-00:12:23 (1 sec)

"...about our values. Anyway..." 89

Nicolle Wallace

Very Positive

00:12:23-00:12:50 (27 sec)

"Well, he's still the Republican standard-bearer. And if you look at the line -- I mean, Tim Heaphy, who was the lead investigator for the congressional investigation, was also an investigator, a lead investigator, in Charlottesville. I mean, there's a through line between the people that were animated and excited by that and the people that showed up on January 6. And I know you view the communications around the economy in the speech yesterday as vital, making sure that all Americans know what you have done to improve the economy." 90

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:12:50-00:12:56 (6 sec)

"But it sounds like you're going to spend equal attention communicating about the threats to democracy?" 91

Joe Biden

Positive

00:12:56-00:13:01 (5 sec)

"Yes, and equal attention on foreign policy. Look..." 92

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:13:01-00:13:06 (5 sec)

"Can you tell us what you knew ahead of time would happen in Russia?" 93

Joe Biden

Neutral

00:13:06-00:13:09 (3 sec)

"I can't tell you that ahead of time. We knew things ahead of time." 94

Nicolle Wallace

Negative

00:13:09-00:13:12 (3 sec)

"Did you worry that Trump might have tipped him off if he'd still been president?" 95

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

00:13:12-00:13:17 (4 sec)

"Oh, God, I don't know. I don't think about that very often. [Laughter]" 96

Joe Biden

Very Positive

00:13:17-00:13:57 (41 sec)

"But, look, all kidding aside, from the very beginning, I made it a -- and, well, what -- you have been around presidents, working with them. I think every president is always amazed by that Madeleine Albright was probably right, that America is the lead in the world. Without America, there is no -- and so, from the very beginning, from the first meeting of the G7 in England in February when I got elected, I have focused on holding NATO together and then expanding that cadre to 40 countries..." 97

Nicolle Wallace

Positive

00:13:57-00:13:59 (1 sec)

"Yes." 98

Joe Biden

Positive

00:13:59-00:14:28 (30 sec)

"...including Japan, engaged in European affairs, and helping Ukraine, in order to deal with the one thing that I worried and always remain worried about. Putin believed he could break up through solidarity of the West. That happens, he had a total run. So, for example, when all this was going on, I was reconstituting -- I was calling meetings of the G7. I was meeting with -- on -- and video and/or telephone, because we couldn't get there." 99

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:14:28-00:14:30 (2 sec)

"Because COVID was still happening, right, at the beginning." 100

Joe Biden

Neutral

00:14:30-00:14:32 (2 sec)

"Well, no, this -- in the beginning." 101

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:14:32-00:14:33 (1 sec)

"Right." 102

Joe Biden

Neutral

00:14:33-00:14:38 (5 sec)

"My staff pointed out to me, I have around about 180 hours with these heads of state." 103

Nicolle Wallace

Very Positive

00:14:38-00:14:39 (1 sec)

"Yes. Yes." 104

Joe Biden

Negative

00:14:39-00:14:52 (12 sec)

"Because they look to us. And I have made it -- Putin has one objective: Split the West. If he did that, we were in real trouble." 105

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:14:52-00:14:52 ( sec)

"Right." 106

Joe Biden

Very Positive

00:14:52-00:15:16 (24 sec)

"We have been able to hold everything together, and to help and deal with focusing on making sure that the most significant invasion since World War II does not succeed. And that's why we continue to get significant support to Ukraine. And so that's what I have spent a lot of time doing, including spending time with Zelenskyy of late." 107

Nicolle Wallace

Slightly Positive

00:15:16-00:15:32 (16 sec)

"So, when I worked with John McCain on the campaign trail, I used to sit in the back of the SUV with the three amigos, him, Lieberman, and Lindsey Graham. And we'd be heading into a really important swing state, and I'd be trying to tell him about their local sports team. And he'd be on the phone with Saakashvili." 108

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:15:32-00:15:37 (5 sec)

"And he'd get off the phone and want to talk about -- he was almost ahead of his time, right?" 109

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

00:15:37-00:15:38 (1 sec)

"Well, he was. John -- John..." 110

Nicolle Wallace

Positive

00:15:38-00:15:41 (3 sec)

"I mean, what do you think he would think of his Republican Party?" 111

Joe Biden

Leans Negative

00:15:41-00:15:45 (3 sec)

"I don't think he'd think much of it and I don't think he -- I don't know that, OK?" 112

Nicolle Wallace

Leans Positive

00:15:45-00:15:45 (1 sec)

"Yes. No, we can't speak for him, obviously." 113

Joe Biden

Neutral

00:15:45-00:15:46 (1 sec)

"And -- but..." 114

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:15:46-00:15:48 (2 sec)

"But he was so strong..." 115

Joe Biden

Very Positive

00:15:48-00:15:49 (1 sec)

"Well, he was strong." 116

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:15:49-00:15:52 (3 sec)

"...in articulating what you just did, that Putin... [Crosstalk]" 117

Joe Biden

Very Negative

00:15:52-00:16:11 (19 sec)

"Look, when I went out to see him when he was dying at his home in Arizona, he asked me, going out, he said: "Joe, would you do my eulogy?" You know, it was one of the greatest honors that I have had. And we used to -- you remember he started working with me when he came back as a prisoner of war, from being a prisoner of war." 118

Joe Biden

Neutral

00:16:11-00:16:12 (1 sec)

"And I... [Laughter]" 119

Joe Biden

Neutral

00:16:12-00:16:13 (2 sec)

"I helped talk him into running. [Laughter]" 120

Joe Biden

Somewhat Positive

00:16:13-00:16:26 (12 sec)

"And I used to kid him. I said: "You have got too damn good." And what -- and, you know, we used to argue like hell, argue like hell, but like brothers, we'd end up hugging one another. But..." 121

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:16:26-00:16:28 (2 sec)

"But that's the way politics used to be." 122

Joe Biden

Positive

00:16:28-00:16:28 ( sec)

"Yes." 123

Nicolle Wallace

Somewhat Negative

00:16:28-00:16:30 (2 sec)

"You would fight for the cameras, and you would..." 124

Joe Biden

Very Positive

00:16:30-00:17:01 (31 sec)

"Yes, and then -- and I -- you may recall, I got very upset with the last president and even with my good friend Lindsey sometimes because the denial of -- I mean, covering the name on the ship of John McCain? I mean, come on. This guy was a hero. We may disagree, but he was a completely, thoroughly honorable man." 125

Nicolle Wallace

Positive

00:17:01-00:17:02 (1 sec)

"Yes." 126

Joe Biden

Neutral

00:17:02-00:17:02 (1 sec)

"Oh." 127

Nicolle Wallace

Slightly Positive

00:17:02-00:17:08 (6 sec)

"The way things were. Well, Mr. President, we -- we don't get a lot of presidents through this studio. [Laughter]" 128

Nicolle Wallace

Positive

00:17:08-00:17:20 (12 sec)

"So, consider it your chair. Consider it an open invitation. There are going to be a lot of things on people's mind. And I hope you will look at this as a place you can come and talk about anything that's on your mind." 129

Joe Biden

Very Positive

00:17:20-00:17:26 (6 sec)

"Well, I will. You know, we're like porellas (ph), we Bidens. We show up when we're invited... [Laughter]" 130

Joe Biden

Neutral

00:17:26-00:17:27 (1 sec)

"...but eat all your food. [Crosstalk]" 131

Nicolle Wallace

Slightly Positive

00:17:27-00:17:39 (12 sec)

"I say that about this show, that we're like the Hotel California. You can check out, but you can never leave. People pop up at 4:00, and, at 4:50, they're still here. So, your staff will and a lot of other people will come get me if I do that to you. So... [Laughter]" 132

Joe Biden

Very Positive

00:17:39-00:17:40 (1 sec)

"Well, it's been an honor to be with you." 133

Nicolle Wallace

Somewhat Positive

00:17:40-00:17:41 (1 sec)

"Thank you so much." 134

Joe Biden

Neutral

00:17:41-00:17:42 ( sec)

"I really mean it." 135

Nicolle Wallace

Somewhat Positive

00:17:42-00:17:43 (1 sec)

"Thank you so much, sir." 136

Joe Biden

Very Positive

00:17:43-00:17:44 (2 sec)

"Thank you, thank you, thank you." 137

Nicolle Wallace

Very Positive

00:17:44-00:17:46 (2 sec)

"To be continued. We're really grateful. Thank you." 138

Joe Biden

Positive

00:17:46-00:17:48 (1 sec)

"This ain't your father's Republican Party." 139

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:17:48-00:17:48 ( sec)

"It is not. [Laughter]" 140

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:17:48-00:17:49 (1 sec)

"I can attest to that." 141

Joe Biden

Very Positive

00:17:49-00:17:50 (1 sec)

"All right. Well, thanks." 142

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:17:50-00:17:52 (2 sec)

"If you ever need a witness, I can attest to that. [Laughter]" 143

Nicolle Wallace

Somewhat Positive

00:17:52-00:17:53 (1 sec)

"Thank you very much." 144

Joe Biden

Positive

00:17:53-00:17:54 (2 sec)

"But, by the way, there's still a, really, lot of good Republicans." 145

Nicolle Wallace

Positive

00:17:54-00:17:55 ( sec)

"Out in the country, yes." 146

Joe Biden

Slightly Negative

00:17:55-00:17:55 (1 sec)

"No, and in the Senate." 147

Nicolle Wallace

Neutral

00:17:55-00:17:56 ( sec)

"Who?" 148

Joe Biden

Negative

00:17:56-00:18:20 (24 sec)

"Well, I think Mitt Romney is the first guy. There's a lot of them. But -- not Mitt, but others have come to me since I have been elected. Now it's six Republican senators. Two came at one time, and the other four alone to tell me: "Joe, I agree with you, but, if I'm seen doing it, I will lose the primary." It's not a profile in courage, but they're..." 149

Nicolle Wallace

Positive

00:18:20-00:18:21 (1 sec)

"Yes." 150

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

00:18:21-00:18:35 (15 sec)

"They're -- I think -- you know me. I'm an eternal optimist. I still think there's going to come a moment when they're going to be able to break. And, by the way, remember, I said we could still do bipartisan things? They said they couldn't do it. We didn't get a lot, but we got a lot of bipartisan things done." 151