Roll Call Factba.se - Remarks: Joe Biden Tours an Union Electrical Job Training Facility in Cincinnati

Rick Fischer

Unknown

00:00:00-00:00:00 ( sec)

"Those --" 1

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

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"Yeah." 2

Rick Fischer

Unknown

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"Those companies find a way around us somehow, you know?" 3

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

00:00:03-00:00:03 (1 sec)

"Yeah, I know." 4

Rick Fischer

Very Positive

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"It would probably be a neat thing if we could do something like that." 5

Joe Biden

Unknown

00:00:05-00:00:06 (1 sec)

"We're trying." 6

Rick Fischer

Unknown

00:00:06-00:00:09 (3 sec)

"And we're going to come up through this motor control center." 7

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

00:00:09-00:00:10 ( sec)

"OK." 8

Rick Fischer

Unknown

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"I've got an instructor and an apprentice, and let me introduce them to you." 9

Joe Biden

Unknown

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"Hey, guys. How are you?" 10

Rick Fischer

Unknown

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"This is Guthrie, instructor." 11

Joe Biden

Unknown

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"Where am I supposed to stand?" 12

Robert Guthrie

Neutral

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"Anywhere you want." 13

Joe Biden

Unknown

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"I got --" 14

Robert Guthrie

Somewhat Positive

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"Anywhere you would like." 15

Joe Biden

Somewhat Positive

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"Thank you, pal. How are you?" 16

Robert Guthrie

Unknown

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"[Inaudible]" 17

Joe Biden

Unknown

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"What's your name?" 18

Nicholas Patton

Unknown

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"Nicholas Patton." 19

Joe Biden

Positive

00:00:26-00:00:28 (2 sec)

"Good to see you, Nicholas." 20

Nicholas Patton

Positive

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"Nice to meet you." 21

Robert Guthrie

Very Positive

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"OK. What we have here is one of our PLC and motor control hands-on training labs. We use this with our apprentices and groups of up to four to teach them the systems that we use predominantly in this area of manufacturing and industrial. This type of system uses components like mechanicals, limit switches here, very low-frequency drives, the PLC itself, multiple different relays." 22

Robert Guthrie

Very Positive

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"We just use it to streamline and make more efficient industrial processes, conveyor systems, fill-types processes. Companies like P&G are big here in Cincinnati." 23

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

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"Yeah, they are big, aren't they?" 24

Robert Guthrie

Unknown

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"Procter and Gamble. So we do a lot of work with Procter and Gamble, so they use a lot of our PLC system. We do have a --" 25

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

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"By the way, P&G has endorsed the plan, the --" 26

Rick Fischer

Unknown

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"Infrastructure plan." 27

Joe Biden

Unknown

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"Homes." 28

Rick Fischer

Very Positive

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"Yeah, yeah, they're big in town." 29

Robert Guthrie

Unknown

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"We do have an example here. So we use this system. Obviously, we don't have a conveyor system here on --" 30

Joe Biden

Somewhat Negative

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"Excuse me. I'm blocking [Inaudible]" 31

Robert Guthrie

Slightly Positive

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"Yeah." 32

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

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"Yeah." 33

Robert Guthrie

Somewhat Positive

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"[Inaudible] We don't have a conveyor system here. So we use lighting systems to actually show as if we were to use it. So, Nicholas, if you would, if you hit the first start button. So if somebody were to start the conveyor system, you have a visual notification. Usually, these systems are in a remote location like a control room." 34

Robert Guthrie

Very Negative

00:01:41-00:01:58 (17 sec)

"So the person in the control room would see that the status is normal. System is operating. These would actually be out on the site. So everybody walking the plant would see it. If something were to go wrong because we can program different fault settings, or if there was an emergency, if you hit stop button, it would change, the system would shut down." 35

Joe Biden

Slightly Negative

00:01:58-00:02:00 (2 sec)

"I hit the stop button from the floor?" 36

Robert Guthrie

Unknown

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"Correct." 37

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

00:02:01-00:02:01 (1 sec)

"Yeah." 38

Robert Guthrie

Negative

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"Or the control room. Emergency stops go anywhere there would be any kind of a pinch point in the machinery." 39

Joe Biden

Unknown

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"Gotcha." 40

Robert Guthrie

Leans Positive

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"We can also program safety devices. So instead of an emergency stop, sometimes there's a -- like a Plexiglas shield." 41

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

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"Yeah." 42

Robert Guthrie

Unknown

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"We worked at Sam Adams brewery. So their conveyor system, as the stuff went into the pasteurizer, if they listed that shield and shut it down. We don't have any audio devices here, but you can hook up chimes, bells, whistles." 43

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

00:02:25-00:02:25 (1 sec)

"Yeah." 44

Robert Guthrie

Slightly Positive

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"So anybody in the plant would know. If you were in the control room and hit it, that's fine. If you're in the control room and somebody else hits it, you want to know why. So that's what the devices are for." 45

Joe Biden

Unknown

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"Now, how long does an apprentice work in this room -- I mean, on these systems?" 46

Robert Guthrie

Unknown

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"Typically -- I mean, we do two nights a week and our classes are about two hours each. So at most, I think PLCs is running on about 20 hours of instruction. And about half of that would be classroom, the other half would be hands-on training." 47

Joe Biden

Unknown

00:02:56-00:02:58 (2 sec)

"Gotcha." 48

Robert Guthrie

Unknown

00:02:58-00:02:58 ( sec)

"Ever since we've got [Inaudible]" 49

Joe Biden

Positive

00:02:58-00:03:01 (3 sec)

"What got you interested?" 50

Nicholas Patton

Positive

00:03:01-00:03:04 (3 sec)

"It's kind of the health care and the pension." 51

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

00:03:04-00:03:05 ( sec)

"Yeah." 52

Nicholas Patton

Positive

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"Actually, being able to know that if I just did this, my family would be taken care of, and I'd be able to retire." 53

Rick Fischer

Very Positive

00:03:19-00:03:21 (3 sec)

"You're very proud of him." 54

Joe Biden

Unknown

00:03:21-00:03:24 (3 sec)

"My son was an Army Major [Inaudible] in Iraq." 55

Rick Fischer

Very Positive

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"That's awesome." 56

Joe Biden

Unknown

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"Nine months in Kosovo." 57

Rick Fischer

Unknown

00:03:26-00:03:27 (1 sec)

"The next [Inaudible]" 58

Joe Biden

Unknown

00:03:27-00:03:29 (2 sec)

"Passed away. The --" 59

Rick Fischer

Very Negative

00:03:29-00:03:37 (8 sec)

"The fire alarm line where they learn how to hook up fire alarms." 60

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

00:03:37-00:03:38 (2 sec)

"Yeah." 61

Rick Fischer

Unknown

00:03:38-00:03:41 (2 sec)

"We'll walk over there." 62

Unidentified speaker

Somewhat Positive

00:03:41-00:03:50 (9 sec)

"Thank you, again, Mr. President." 63

Joe Biden

Very Positive

00:03:50-00:03:53 (3 sec)

"It's fine. Thank you. Thanks for your service." 64

Unidentified speaker

Leans Positive

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"Not a problem. [Inaudible]" 65

Joe Biden

Very Positive

00:03:56-00:03:58 (2 sec)

"Good luck to you, pal." 66

Unidentified speaker

Somewhat Positive

00:03:58-00:03:59 (1 sec)

"Thank you." 67

Joe Biden

Very Positive

00:03:59-00:04:02 (3 sec)

"Good luck to you." 68

Unidentified speaker

Somewhat Positive

00:04:02-00:04:05 (3 sec)

"Thank you." 69

Rick Fischer

Very Positive

00:04:05-00:04:07 (2 sec)

"Is it [Inaudible]? That's a pretty neat little thing." 70

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

00:04:07-00:04:07 ( sec)

"Yeah." 71

Rick Fischer

Unknown

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"They go about 16 weeks total on those things." 72

Joe Biden

Unknown

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"That's how --" 73

Rick Fischer

Unknown

00:04:16-00:04:18 (2 sec)

"Two nights." 74

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

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"Yeah." 75

Rick Fischer

Unknown

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"[Inaudible] 16 weeks altogether." 76

Joe Biden

Somewhat Negative

00:04:28-00:04:30 (2 sec)

"If the alarm goes off, they're going to run." 77

Rick Fischer

Unknown

00:04:30-00:04:43 (13 sec)

"Right. Stephen is our apprentice, and Jerry is the instructor. He's a 33-year member of IBEW." 78

Joe Biden

Unknown

00:04:43-00:04:44 (1 sec)

"Hey, Stephen." 79

Stephen Randolph

Positive

00:04:44-00:04:46 (1 sec)

"Nice to meet you, Mr. President." 80

Joe Biden

Positive

00:04:46-00:04:47 (1 sec)

"Good to see you. Jerry?" 81

Jerry Mahoney

Positive

00:04:47-00:04:50 (3 sec)

"Nice to meet you, Mr. President." 82

Joe Biden

Positive

00:04:50-00:04:54 (4 sec)

"How are you, buddy? Good to see you. I guess I'm supposed to stand over here." 83

Jerry Mahoney

Very Positive

00:04:54-00:05:02 (9 sec)

"Yes. So Stephen's going to fill you in a little bit on the part of this program that is to an advantage to him and what he's gotten out of this so far." 84

Stephen Randolph

Leans Positive

00:05:02-00:05:22 (20 sec)

"So I'm a fifth-year apprentice here. I took this class back in my third year. We go over how to wire up fire alarm systems to be able to install them, make places like hospitals and office buildings safe and operable." 85

Joe Biden

Negative

00:05:22-00:05:26 (4 sec)

"And almost all commercial fire alarms, you do?" 86

Jerry Mahoney

Unknown

00:05:26-00:05:30 (3 sec)

"So we do light commercial, very little residential." 87

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

00:05:30-00:05:30 ( sec)

"Yeah." 88

Jerry Mahoney

Positive

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"But this system is pretty similar to something you might find in a residence, maybe a little more elaborate." 89

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

00:05:35-00:05:35 (1 sec)

"Yeah." 90

Jerry Mahoney

Slightly Positive

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"Yeah." 91

Stephen Randolph

Very Positive

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"This over here is condensed down as into what you would see in, like I said, a hospital or an office building to be able to work on it and learn how to install them efficiently and correctly." 92

Jerry Mahoney

Unknown

00:05:54-00:06:14 (20 sec)

"So this is basically a -- it's a 32-hour course split up into 16 hours of lab. This is our lab. When I started the lab, we had 10 stations that we expanded to 12. Now, we're at 18. So I can get as many as 36 students in here, two to a station at a time. Basically, come in here the first night, everything's hooked up." 93

Jerry Mahoney

Unknown

00:06:14-00:06:35 (20 sec)

"We set some things off, everybody gets to see how it works. We proceed to dismantle everything. And then in class, we go over specific parts of the system, what the systems needed, how it works. We then move back in the lab and we actually do the installation, pull the wire, hook parts of it up. So it's a piece of a puzzle." 94

Jerry Mahoney

Unknown

00:06:35-00:06:45 (11 sec)

"We're building a puzzle out here versus looking at an entire system. It just breaks it down, go over each individual part and how they work. Smoke detectors --" 95

Rick Fischer

Unknown

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"Think of it as five." 96

Joe Biden

Unknown

00:06:46-00:06:46 ( sec)

"Gotcha." 97

Rick Fischer

Unknown

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"But there are some people, some companies [Inaudible]" 98

Courtney Groeschen

Unknown

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"Hello. Courtney Groeschen." 99

Joe Biden

Unknown

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"It takes five years." 100

Rick Fischer

Unknown

00:06:51-00:06:52 (1 sec)

"The 50 people that [Inaudible]" 101

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

00:06:52-00:06:53 ( sec)

"Yeah." 102

Rick Fischer

Slightly Positive

00:06:53-00:06:54 (1 sec)

"Yeah, it's a five-year program." 103

Joe Biden

Unknown

00:06:54-00:06:57 (3 sec)

"Let me tell you something. I wonder, why are you guys [Inaudible] this?" 104

Rick Fischer

Slightly Positive

00:06:57-00:06:57 ( sec)

"Yeah." 105

Joe Biden

Neutral

00:06:57-00:07:00 (3 sec)

"I'm serious. Think about it." 106

Rick Fischer

Very Negative

00:07:00-00:07:01 (1 sec)

"No doubt about it." 107

Joe Biden

Unknown

00:07:01-00:07:03 (2 sec)

"That's four years of college plus." 108

Rick Fischer

Very Positive

00:07:03-00:07:14 (12 sec)

"Yeah. Yeah. And we come out, and we got to do a couple of other classes through a community college or through a, you know, state college. And then you can come out of here with an applied science." 109

Joe Biden

Very Positive

00:07:14-00:07:26 (12 sec)

"Yeah. And by the way, one of the things we did was to make sure we're in a situation where [Audio gap] this program. Christ." 110

Rick Fischer

Unknown

00:07:26-00:07:26 ( sec)

"[Inaudible]" 111

Joe Biden

Somewhat Negative

00:07:26-00:07:27 ( sec)

"I'll be damned." 112

Rick Fischer

Unknown

00:07:27-00:07:29 (2 sec)

"We have Dan and Courtney in here. This is another motor control --" 113

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

00:07:29-00:07:29 ( sec)

"Yeah." 114

Rick Fischer

Unknown

00:07:29-00:07:31 (1 sec)

"And apparatus spot. We have [Inaudible]" 115

Joe Biden

Unknown

00:07:31-00:07:35 (4 sec)

"Hey, Courtney. How are you doing, Dan?" 116

Dan McCarthy

Unknown

00:07:35-00:07:35 ( sec)

"Hello." 117

Courtney Groeschen

Unknown

00:07:35-00:07:36 (1 sec)

"Hi. How are you?" 118

Joe Biden

Very Positive

00:07:36-00:07:40 (4 sec)

"It's good to see you. OK, what are we doing here?" 119

Dan McCarthy

Slightly Positive

00:07:40-00:08:03 (23 sec)

"Well, we have a motor control setup. Basically, inside this instructional lab classroom, the purpose is to get to sit down every day in front of this equipment and then wire up stuff. That way, they can go from the very simple controlled wiring diagrams into the more complex industrial stuff. And they get to actually touch, feel, and then hold all this stuff." 120

Dan McCarthy

Unknown

00:08:03-00:08:21 (18 sec)

"In that way, it makes more sense to them later on in the field. Even though sometimes the stuff's contained, they get to see how it actually works, bit and piece, every day. And they build up through those processes, and then they end up with the more complex stuff, which is the programmable logic controller." 121

Joe Biden

Negative

00:08:21-00:08:24 (3 sec)

"That's what I'm going to ask you about. It's going to be more difficult, isn't it?" 122

Courtney Groeschen

Slightly Positive

00:08:24-00:08:25 (1 sec)

"Yeah." 123

Dan McCarthy

Unknown

00:08:25-00:08:27 (1 sec)

"And they actually get to --" 124

Joe Biden

Leans Negative

00:08:27-00:08:28 (1 sec)

"Above my pay grade." 125

Dan McCarthy

Very Positive

00:08:28-00:08:44 (16 sec)

"Write that program. And once they write that program, then they can download it and then wire that. And then after they wire it, the biggest thing is troubleshooting for them. And then that way, they get that real-world experience of troubleshooting what they did. Does that work? Does it accomplish the stuff they need to make it accomplished?" 126

Joe Biden

Positive

00:08:44-00:08:45 (1 sec)

"What got you interested?" 127

Courtney Groeschen

Very Positive

00:08:45-00:09:01 (16 sec)

"I have always kind of been a hands-on person. And once I realized college was financially not an option, I started looking around, and my grandfather actually recommended this to me. He worked with a few guys that were first years, and he's like, you could definitely do this, and --" 128

Joe Biden

Unknown

00:09:01-00:09:02 (1 sec)

"It's a five-year program." 129

Courtney Groeschen

Positive

00:09:02-00:09:02 ( sec)

"Yes." 130

Dan McCarthy

Unknown

00:09:02-00:09:03 (1 sec)

"Five." 131

Joe Biden

Very Positive

00:09:03-00:09:21 (18 sec)

"You all know that. This is a five-year program, this apprenticeship. No, I think it's important for people to know. There's a reason why unions are the best. Not being nice to you all, because you're the best-trained people in whatever fields you're in. Nobody's as good." 132

Dan McCarthy

Somewhat Positive

00:09:21-00:09:22 (1 sec)

"I would agree." 133

Joe Biden

Slightly Negative

00:09:22-00:09:33 (10 sec)

"No, I really mean it. I really genuinely mean it. You guys built the middle class. That's the reason why there is one. So how long have you've been doing it?" 134

Courtney Groeschen

Unknown

00:09:33-00:09:37 (5 sec)

"This -- I'm going into my fifth year right now. I'll be learning about this PLC this year." 135

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

00:09:37-00:09:41 (4 sec)

"Well, I tell you what, when you figure it out, call me, will you?" 136

Courtney Groeschen

Very Positive

00:09:41-00:09:43 (2 sec)

"Yeah, definitely." 137

Joe Biden

Unknown

00:09:43-00:09:47 (4 sec)

"So these are all different units?" 138

Dan McCarthy

Slightly Positive

00:09:47-00:10:04 (17 sec)

"Yes, we basically have enough for each apprentice to have their own in front of them. That way, as we're doing this, everyone's not sharing. They have the same type of thing. And we change out the product. There's bits and pieces going from very simple pilot lights to complicated limit switches, photo eyes." 139

Dan McCarthy

Leans Negative

00:10:04-00:10:15 (12 sec)

"We go into semiconductors. So we're really trying to stay cutting edge with the way, you know, all of our processing and manufacturing goes. In that way, we stay right there with them, and we could be [Inaudible]" 140

Joe Biden

Unknown

00:10:15-00:10:19 (3 sec)

"What's your day job? Where were you -- who -- where are you --" 141

Courtney Groeschen

Positive

00:10:19-00:10:23 (5 sec)

"I work at Paul Brown Stadium with United Electric." 142

Joe Biden

Very Positive

00:10:23-00:10:25 (2 sec)

"Good for you. Are you enjoying it?" 143

Courtney Groeschen

Very Positive

00:10:25-00:10:27 (2 sec)

"Absolutely. I love it." 144

Joe Biden

Very Positive

00:10:27-00:10:50 (23 sec)

"Yeah. Well, that's great. That's great. Well, IBEW is the best. I once said at one of your national conventions, if every person, every IBEW, that guy quit and every single guy on Wall Street who's a trader quit, traders wouldn't affect much. But you guys, the country would come to a screeching halt. Think about it." 145

Dan McCarthy

Slightly Positive

00:10:50-00:10:51 (1 sec)

"Yeah." 146

Joe Biden

Neutral

00:10:51-00:10:59 (8 sec)

"Would literally come to a halt. And by the way, you don't be crazy like the rest of them, be climbing poles in the middle of a storm, putting up a new [Inaudible], all right?" 147

Courtney Groeschen

Slightly Negative

00:10:59-00:11:02 (3 sec)

"No, they wouldn't let me do it right now. I'm still an apprentice." 148

Joe Biden

Very Positive

00:11:02-00:11:08 (6 sec)

"Good. All right. Anyway, well, thank you. Now, how many students you have come through like, you know, [Inaudible]" 149

Dan McCarthy

Unknown

00:11:08-00:11:16 (8 sec)

"A lot of times our classes vary. But I -- normally, we sit about 24 inside this room. And in all 24 students are --" 150

Joe Biden

Unknown

00:11:16-00:11:19 (2 sec)

"And how many times a week are they here?" 151

Dan McCarthy

Unknown

00:11:19-00:11:30 (11 sec)

"Right now, because of the amount of students we have, because the need for it in industry, I teach three to four times a week. The students usually only go to school two times a week and that's working 40 hours a week plus." 152

Joe Biden

Slightly Positive

00:11:30-00:11:31 (2 sec)

"Yeah, that's the point I'm trying to make." 153

Dan McCarthy

Positive

00:11:31-00:11:33 (2 sec)

"And going to school at night. Yes." 154

Joe Biden

Unknown

00:11:33-00:11:40 (7 sec)

"That's the point I was trying to make. If I ask what you were doing, where you were working because you do a 40-hour week job plus this apprentice job." 155