Hey, look who's on the phone, Donald Trump. Oh. So now he's acing me out. That's right. He's moving you out. Our old friend, Donald Trump, who, you know, is doing very well for himself. Got a big franchise on NBC. I told Howard that I'm watching this season of Celebrity Apprentice. It's good. It's good. It's feeling great. Yeah. Are the ratings going up or do they stay the same? Well, they're very solid. They've been doing great. In fact, they just extended this for two more years and next year, they're doing a regular in the fall -- the regular Apprentice. They haven't done that for a couple of years. Well, they haven't. We went to celebrity and it worked out great. And the other was doing very well but we said "Let's put some celebrities on see if we can get them."" And now Right. Last season and she became hot as a pistol. I mean, she told me the other day it's one of the most incredible things that ever happened to her in terms of people recognizing her, believe it or not. Are you shocked that celebrities, you know, agree to do something like this? To me, it seems like a lot of work and with a lot of potential embarrassment. You know what I mean? Yeah, I'm a little surprised but, you know, you take certain people although he wasn't such a celebrity. The country singer, as an example, he became the number one country singer all of a sudden and the -- you know, Pierce Morgan did a great job and now, he's got his own show. But if you're on, let's say with the situation is reversed. I can't imagine you ever doing a show like this, being a contestant, but like what's the motivation even to try hard. You know what I mean? Like why, if you're a celebrity, would you care to win Celebrity Apprentice? Well, you know, it's interesting because I ask myself some of these people -- you see how hard they're working Robin, as an example, on that on the show. Yeah. I mean, I worked so hard and to a certain extent, it's to protect their brand. I mean, once they do it and then, you'll have people that quit. You know, Darryl quit. Right. And what do you what does that say about a guy? Darryl Strawberry is a quitter. Well, it was a bad thing for him to do, I think, but he had a hard time doing it. And you know Michael Johnson? I don't know exactly what happened with him. You saw that last night. Yeah. He never said what was calling him home. He just went "Oh." I didn't want to get in. You know, you could see the attitude was -- my attitude wasn't so great. Right. But you know, I think it was a lot of crap. But Michael Johnson did something that I think he will regret but, you know, they worked very hard, Howard. It's amazing what I do and I don't think I do it. No. I will tell you, every season, we go out. Everybody wants to be on the show especially since you know Trace Adkins. In all fairness, when you talk about celebrities, he wasn't that much of a celebrity. I've never heard of him. He was a country singer. Right. I've never heard of him and before the show ended, he had the number one record in music. I mean, he had the number one record. So in other words, the record business has changed so much that if you go on a show like The Apprentice, it could probably catapult you to a number one slot on the charts. Well, you know, he was sort of funny. He said, you know Mr. Trump before I met -- before I did the show, I couldn't get a ticket to the Country Music Awards. Now, I'm hosting them. Wow. Well, hey so. So it really does make sense if, you know, if you're a certain type. I mean, Trace is an extreme example because he became the biggest country singer. Isn't it amazing when you think about it? In 2009, Jesse James, who now is all over the front page of the newspaper -- Right. Before his, you know -- His antics. For cheating on Sandra Bullock but it is amazingly like you had him on. I didn't know that much about Jesse James. In fact, I had him on the show because he was promoting your show. Right. And you know, it seemed like a nice enough guy to me. I had a good time with him. But the whole time, in the back of my mind, I was thinking "What's Sandra Bullock doing with a guy like this?""I mean And a whole different world. Yeah, right. Well, you know, I became the resident expert on Tiger and Jesse James. I know. Tiger and you obviously know Jesse. Jesse was on the show. What do you think of the guy? Jesse? Yeah. You know, he's a very interesting character. I used to ask him. I don't know if you saw that what I did [Inaudible] by watching but I would ask him "What the hell does Sandra Bullock see in you?" Right. Jesse, I mean you look like a great looking guy. Right. You know I'm not a big tattoo guy, Jesse. He got tattoos all over your face. I mean all over your neck, all of you, everything. And you know, I'm not -- I don't get the tattoo deal, Howard. I mean, I see guys with tattoos. I say "What are they doing to themselves?""Right?" Well... It isn't my world. It's a different universe, a different -- Right. It's a different universe. It's -- I feel sad for him in a way because, in a way, you straightened yourself out too. I mean, you had a bunch of marriages and you, you know, I don't know if you cheated or what but you did right. What's this go on? But what I'm saying is like he had a good thing going. She was taking care of his kids She was like Cinderella. He got to the ball and the prince picked them. I mean, I mean I learned a lot growing up and I think you have to like, you got to learn, at some point, you, like, to value what you have, right? Yeah. Yeah. You do. Well, interesting with Jesse. He really seemed to love Sandra but he never brought her on the show and he could have won or at least, gone further. If you remember, I kept saying "Why don't you bring it on like that? Have a task." Right. And the task was to get a crowd and get the crowd to give money and all sorts of things right now if he would have had Sandra Bullock and she was a hot movie star and he's a hot movie star. You know, they would have had a bigger -- I say "Jesse Right. But many of them hate it. I mean, we had Clint. Remember Clint Black? Yeah, Clint Black, the country singer. Oh, man. He hated Jesse and Jesse hated him. Really? No kidding, so it shows you that he's not the easy going guy. Sandra was a little bit off in that pick. They went at it like, you wouldn't believe and just -- if you spoke to Clint Black, you call him, ask him what he thinks of Jesse. It was unbelievable. Nobody has interviewed him. That would be the interview. So is it true on the Apprentice, he would sleep in Hitler pajamas? He would. Let me put it this way, Howard. It was a very different kind of a guy. He was and he was -- I'll tell you what, he was really tough and he was really smart. He was a smart guy. You know it took me three shows to realize the guy had a brain. The guy was so quiet -- Right. And so sullen and such sort of a nasty guy to the other cast members but he was respected in a certain way and he was really smart. And it took me a while to find out. But I said to him "What the hell does Sandra Bullock see in you? You must be great in bed."" That's all I could say." But you were right in a sense the tattooed girl, who even had her face tattoo, that he was cheating, said quote that he had an enormous penis. Oh, well, that's something I didn't get into on the show. Although, in retrospect, I should have. Can they say anal was involved? So you take the tattoos off that girl. Go ahead. Is she good looking? Is she great looking? I don't think so. Well, I think without the tattoos, she has a shot. Right. Well, she has a really good body. Let me ask you something. I'm assuming that you don't cheat at all in your marriage, right? Absolutely. Is that true? Absolutely. You're not lying? No, he's going to say "Well Right. Would you -- so Do you imagine -- Hey, Robin, do you imagine if I say "No You've always been honest. But the next day. You would see what would be he would be in the newspaper. Really? Would you say -- Absolutely, you're right about that. All right, so you would say your first marriages, you know, Were experiments. They were experiments. In other words, you didn't have the understanding you do now. So when these women all say "once a cheater Well, I would say absolutely. I mean, I would say that. First of all, did anyone ever say that I cheated? Well, I'm saying you -- Well I remember the stories of Marlo and [Inaudible] Marla. Marla being at the same -- Ski resort. Ski resort. Yeah, but nobody ever said I really cheated. That's true. Technically [? ] implied it. But I'm saying this, you were -- Come to think of it, they implied it in the strongest of tone. Yeah. You have banged some of the greatest beauties on the planet. True? That's true. That is true. All right. And eventually Some of the greats in history. And yet you stopped and got married again. That's right. And I'm assuming, you're on the level now, right? 100%. Is that true? 100%. So how did you stop doing that? Well, you have to be in love with somebody. Right. You are in love. I'm totally in love, but you have to really love somebody. You have to be with somebody that you like and have a relationship with and a really good one. And you know, you lose interest and it's always good to be really busy. I'm really busy with it. We've been doing great. The company has been doing the best it's ever done and -- How much money they paying you for Apprentice now? They giving you some good bucks. A lot. You are? Well, it's ratings. You know, your business, Howard, is a very simple when you learn that a long time ago. Right. I said to somebody the other day if you get good ratings you can be the worst human being on earth. You can treat the executives like the worst like they're -- Like they're vermin. Like the rest. Right. Right. And you can be, on the other hand,, you can be the nicest person in the world and if you don't get ratings, you're gone. But you're as important to that show as Simon Cowell is to American Idol. Do you own the show? Yes I do. You do? Burnett, yes. So I would imagine, you're making at least -- maybe I'm crazy here, I don't know, could you be making between 50-60 million dollars a year off to just that? A lot. Am I in the ballpark or my way hard? In the ballpark. I am. Yeah, it's ridiculous, right? But you know. Wow. I mean I could tell you two stories but you know that are sort of Lorne Michaels when I did the host at Saturday Night Live. Right. I said to Lorne, the ratings were through the roof. In fact, it was the number one show at that point. It was that, for that, you know, for a long period of time, it was doing great and it continues to do great. It's crazy. But I said to Lorne, "You know Right. But what do you think it is, seriously. What is it about you? Do you think -- I mean, there's a lot of billionaires out there and you know what is it. Why do you think -- I am, here you are, you're the most -- I honestly believe this because I'm a very handsome guy. But wait a second. Looks are very important and I think I'm a very handsome guy. Wait a second. In a sense you're in the most unglamorous business. I mean you're a builder by trade. Yeah but it's Lemaris. I mean, you know, I put real estate. You know, I used to want to be a movie producer. I wanted to make movies. In fact, when I was in high school, I always want and I was going to go to USC School of Cinema. Right. But what do you think it is, seriously. What is it about you? Do you think -- I mean, there's a lot of billionaires out there and you know what is it. Why do you think -- I am, here you are, you're the most -- I was going to do movies and then I realized, you know my father was a builder of Brooklyn and Queens. I was in the real estate business and by osmosis, because when I was growing up, I would listen to my father on the phone and, you know, you learn things, right? Bet [But] your father would never have tolerated you going to be a film student, that kind of thing. Well, he wasn't exactly thrilled with that. Yeah. But that's what I want to do. So I sort of put theater into it. You know I put moviemaking into the real estate business. I've made it a glamorous business. You did? I mean, Trump Towers, this great building, I have Trump buildings all over the place that are incredible buildings. I have the best golf courses in the world. I have a lot of great stuff you know. And I've made it I think very glamorous. You have, and what happened when you were going -- you're going to sue that guy who claimed you're only worth a couple of hundred million dollars. And you said "Listen." Well, I'm worth now six billion dollars. And he wanted to write a book. He tried to write a book and the book had totally failed, by the way. I hope, I hope I helped him that regard. Right. But he tried to make it. You know, he tried to diminish me and I don't like, you know, I don't mind. I'm diminished all the time and sometimes they build me up too much, and sometimes they build me up not enough but I'm worth over six billion dollars and this guy tried to make it like "Oh gee. It's --"" And you know When you're personally worth six billion dollars, why bother doing anything anymore? I don't get. Because it is fun. You know. It is? It is fun. I mean, I just have a good time. Is it having all these -- Is it fun having all these people, responsibilities and? I mean, I have, you know, a lot of responsibilities and I had one bad responsibility over the weekend. Somebody who worked for me, 47 years old, an unbelievable guy, an executive, who worked for me, passed away, died . Of what? Well, probably went to the dentist's. You ever hear the dentist's stuff? You remember, Steve Floria right from [Inaudible]? He went to the dentist and you get an infection and it affects the heart and then, you have a stroke. Wow. Which is what happened. It was a chain of events that were unbelievable. This guy, who was a phenomenal person, went to the dentist, got, I guess, an infection. It affected his heart. He had a stroke. I mean, That's awful. Longest guy you've ever seen Wow. Had a stroke and died. And by the way, that happened to Steve Florio at [Inaudible] who was a great friend of mine. Went to a dentist. I'm afraid to go to a dentist. And he got an infection? It seems that way, yes. It would seem that way. That seems to be the theory. Wow that's awful. Have you been -- That happens, by the way a lot. Have you been -- Beware of dentist. Well, geez. Have you, have you ever had, have you been in touch with Tiger Woods? Yes. You have? Well, I know Tiger. I like Tiger a lot. You know Tiger. Well, he does clinics a lot. He'll use a lot of my golf -- he'll use my golf courses and I think Tiger is really a good guy and Tiger -- Boy, and I do think -- Do you think he's a sex addict? Do you believe in sex addiction? No, I believe people like sex a lot. Yeah, because you could have been a -- People like you. People like me. Whatever. Yeah, but wait a second, he doesn't need to. Even in your worst day, you didn't need sex that much. I mean it's almost like -- You don't know me that well so -- No. Do you ever have two to three women in one day? I have no comment. Wow. Look, I like that. So do you. I love sex but I mean, to the point that the guy -- I don't know it's probably two to three in one day. I don't know if that's ever come out. I'm not sure that that's coming out. Did he lose because he's distracted? Well, he didn't lose. He played great. I mean, you know Tiger played unbelievable. I didn't -- I found it hard to believe that he could make that point. When you don't play golf, it's a very, very tough game, both physically and mentally. Right. And the fact, with all of this stuff going on around him with the wife and the whole thing and I personally don't think they're going to get back together but that's I don't either. And by the way, I think it's much better if he doesn't. Right. He should go be single day. Every time he walks out there, she's going to say "How dare you?""You know They can never repair what they had. Not -- this is too severe. This is the ultimate in severity, right? Sandra Bullock won't go back to Jesse James, won't she? I can't imagine it. I know her quite well. I did a movie with her. She asked me to be in a movie that we made about a year ago. Nice girl, right? Excellent, which is really nice. But you've talk to Tiger since the scandal. What's that? I think you've talked to Tiger since the scandal? Yes. Oh, how's that? Well, I just like him. He's a quality guy. But is it a weird conversation? Yeah. Did you bring it up? Did you bring -- His agent, Mark Steinberg, is a great guy. Oh, wait a second. You know, he's a great guy. I'm talking about -- So he got me that Oreo. You know, the famous Oreo commercial with Peyton Manning and Eli Manning? Yeah, like the two Donalds. [Inaudible] like the commercial of the year. But wait a second. I get it. That was, that was just I like them. All right. You read about the scandal. How long do you wait before you make that phone call? Well, look, you know, it's -- first, it was none of my business. Right. I don't know what's going on with him and his wife anyway. Right. She's hot. She's hot though, right? Yeah, she's fine. Do you think she's not hot? It depends on what standard. What standard are you judging? I'm judging her by all the beauties in the world. Who's the hottest chick right now? Yeah, what standards are you using, Donald? Well, I have a very high standard. Howard knows because he got me in a lot of trouble once. He went over a list of 15 supermodels. Right. But wait a second. You remember the supermodel? Yes. And he'd ask me "How was she? How was she?""And I was married at the time. You know this was not a good question." Yes, but hold it a second. You don't think she's hot enough for Tiger Woods? I think she's a -- you know. What are her flaws? Sure [Inaudible]. I don't want to say. No, say. I don't want to say. I think she's -- I don't know her. In other words, she's -- is she a 10? No, I'd say she's a solid nine. A nine? Solid nine. All right, so what is she missing? I don't want to say. Please, I'm begging you. I don't want to get involved. You will not be involved. I like Tiger too much and I just don't know. Well you've met Ellen face to face? Once, quickly. All right. And you looked her over and you're probably, I would say, the greatest judge of beauty on this planet. In fact, I would create a TV show for you where all you did was just judge women. Now, that may be the best idea of all. It's a simple thing. It's a half hour and we strip it out all over the country. I would say I'm the all time judge. Don't forget, I own the Miss Universe pageant. Yes. You know, I own all that stuff. And you improved it. So the great Carrie Prejean and all these people. It is an example of -- The way to say "Don't change." Howard, just to get you off the subject a sec. Is Elin -- What does something -- Well, Elin is very beautiful. Yes, but why is she a nine and not a 10? Well, 10 is a very, very sacred territory. Is her ass too big? Very sacred, just like being on your top five of all time. You know, I'm one of your top five of all. Mr. Trump, I'm asking you directly. Is her ass too big? No. Okay. Body perfect? Very nice. There was something that troubled you. What is it? The face? No. She's very nice. I mean, is she a 10? You know what a 10 is. Who is a 10? Just so I can know, besides your wife. Who is a 10? I don't, I don't want to say. Well, I would say the current Miss Universe is a 10. Okay, so Elin is a nine. So something was off. Eight to a nine. An eight to a nine. Oh, she's slipping. She's going down. She's a solid nine and now, she's an eight [Inaudible]. That's right. I just mentioned the current Miss Universe. And that knocked her down. So what is it that made her an 8? Was it something flawed in the face or the body or both? Nothing. She's really nice. I mean, she's great. I mean, in all fairness, You're holding back on me. I'm shocked. In all fairness, Tiger should go out, should have lots of fun and play golf and I agree. Tiger is going to be, has to win. He's got to win. He played great this week and I thought he played amazing. Phil Mickelson played unbelievable golf. Yes. And Phil Mickelson, now, they're kind of treating him like he is the anti-Tiger. His wife has cancer. He's with her. The three beautiful children walked out and hugged him. Right. Right. Tiger would not have had that seen as the winner. All right. So it's like Tiger's not the bag. You don't think Phil ever cheated, do you, Howard? Do I? I wouldn't. Believe me. What would you think? I'd say no. Okay, good. What do you think? I, I would say no. Are you saying you know that he's cheated? No. I would, I was just asking you. Do you think he's cheated? Based on the, the, the, the three -- That would be -- Hey, I think that would be a big story. Wait, I've got to ask you something before we Hey, Robin. That would be -- That would be huge. Donald Trump has a new show. I'm going to tell you about in a second but first I got to talk about this. Your daughter recently got married. Right. Okay. To a Jew. That's true. She became a Jew. That's true. Now, what the -- You hear the disappointment. Yeah, you know what? I hear disappointment. No, I think he's a great guy -- As you were -- The first guy and it wouldn't matter. I mean, it doesn't really matter. But he's a great guy. Did you wear yarmulke? The Jewish hat in the ceremony. No. Wow. Well, it was not a big deal. It was a Jewish ceremony. Yeah, it's not a big deal. In fact it's possible that one did slip on my head for a little while. Is it true you refused to wear the yarmulke? No, that's not true. That's not true. She is a great girl. She's a beautiful girl. She -- every guy wanted to get Ivanka. Oh, I love her. I was going to marry her. Every guy wanted to be with her. And she just loved this particular guy, Jared, who is a great guy and I'm happy with her decision. So you're okay with that religious thing? Yeah, I think it's great. But you're a guy who a country club guy, you know. Well, you know, how they talk in the -- You used to banning this, too Yeah, back in the day, we could ban Jews from the club and now, all of a sudden, we're married to one. I have all these clubs and she can work on Saturday. There was a report that you stomped on the yarmulke. No, he's really a very good guy and I think they have a great marriage. I'm sure they have a great marriage. Yes. And she has made -- well, let's say, you're a grandfather. Well, the other one. You have your son. I have two. Two through done. Is that killing you? I mean, I've heard that you hate to be called Grandpa. What do you say to them? You know, I'm not a big fan. I don't feel like a grandfather. I'm not a big fan. Why don't they call you like D. T.? Well, you know, they're not allowed to call me 'Grandpa'. What do they call you? What do they call you? They don't call me anything yet because they're so young. I like it that way. Someone told me You're so taken with your daughter now being Jewish. You're making a trump mezuzah about yourself. That's right. Is that right? All right. Now, listen. Donald Trump has a new show. He's hosting something called "Donald J. Trump's Fabulous World of Golf""." Now, why Donald J. Trump? Well? You know, it's funny. That's an interesting quest -- somebody else asked me that the other day. Donald J. Trump. Every time I used Donald J. Trump, something turns out to a big success. Sometimes when I use Donald Trump, I don't know, I've had good luck with it. Does that make sense [Inaudible]? All right. [Inaudible] good luck. Okay. All right. It's sort of a superstition thing. I don't know what it is but "Donald Trump's Wonderful World"" I was researching this show. You, of course, did a smart thing. Donald is the host of the show. It's on the Golf Channel, which I didn't even know there was a golf channel because I'm not a golfer, but you got, as a co-host, a super hot chick who's a golfer. Right. Oh, and I did worse than that though. It's called "Donald J. Trump's Fabulous World of Golf"". And I -- you know Sounds good. But it's great. And people love that show. They love it. So you know I have fun with it. So this will air. Let's see. It starts airing tonight. Tonight, 9:00 on the golf channel for anyone who's a golf fan, you can watch Donald Trump or if you're a fan of hot chicks, they're going to be paraded out there as well. Let me ask you, Howard. You did "Howard Stern's The All-Time That's correct, yes. Now, I have two of the top ten. Go ahead. Two of them. You are on two of them. Are they still, Are they still two of the top ten? Yes. I've been relegated down to one of the top two. I know what you're talking about you're talking about your agent [Inaudible]. That was one of the all time classic I'm trying to think what the second one was. I don't know. I was down for two. You were I'm trying to remem -- yeah. Yeah, I mean you're good. I think it had to do, I think it had to do with the super model thing that you got me in such trouble. That was gay. Yeah, that was gay. I was in such trouble and you have no idea. Why are you all of a sudden afraid to talk about women, their flaws and give them a number? Because of intelligence. What? No, wait a second. Stop it. He's getting too nice. Not say anything bad about it. No. No, I'm becoming very diplomatic. The thing with Elin, I don't understand. Maybe, I'll run for office or [Inaudible] I really don't un -- like, in the old days, you would have said to me "Look Right. I mean, you know. Nothing's wrong with her. She's beautiful. You're asking me. Is she a 10? You'd got it down to an eight. 10 is a very rarified -- She's an eight and dropping You know the term rarified? That's called rarefied air. Ten is very rarefied, Howard. I am one of the worst. I, like, calling someone after a tragedy or something terrible happen. I admired the fact that you picked up the phone and called Tiger Woods during this. What I want to know is how much time, like how long ago did you speak to him? Did you -- How long did --? I don't want to comment on, on speaking to Tiger. You know, I just don't want to because he's in such pressure. How do you start the conversation? Well, I think it's amazing what he did over the weekend that he played so well. Okay. It's amazing. But when you pick up the phone and call him, like do you, do you bring -- do you say "Hey No, I just respect Tiger. I have a lot of respect for him and I love him because he uses my places. You know. When he does a thing for Nike. He will, like he likes to use my courses. And you know, that means he must like me and you know, when -- But how long is the conversation? Is it a superficial one? I don't want to comment on it. No, I don't want to comment on it. So wait a second. Let's say, I get into a tragedy of some kind, all right? A massive, a massive tragedy. Right. You call me up and do you just ignore the topic? Well, you had a much different situation than Tiger. Tiger is in a mess, okay? He is. In a mess. I never thought this going to, you know. I mean, Tiger was the most perfectly handled human being in history. It's true. Did you know he was having all these affairs? You knew, didn't you? No no I don't I don't think a lot of people I guess a lot of women knew You didn't hear -- Well, the people at MGM had to know IMG. I think the people at IMG probably must have known something, right? I guess. Who knows? Isn't it true Tiger cried on the phone when he spoke to you? No. That was the rumor. No. No. So how long is the conversation. Is it a three second conversation superficial? I don't want to talk about the conversation. You know, it's such a personal thing, Howard and he's such an amazing guy and you know just let him get on with the golf and let him win and let him have every woman. I mean, this guy will go through women like "Forget it"" and nobody will care." The rumor is you take the conversation between yourself and Tiger Woods. I did not. I don't like taping conversations. So you're telling me -- I'm just asking in general terms. I'm not asking for any specifics. You made a phone call. You picked up. You have his personal phone number and you picked up and I guess you, you got him on there. And you said Hi, it's Donald Trump. How are you doing. And it was a lengthy conversation. Oh, Howard, but it doesn't matter anymore. You know why? Why? Because he's now come out. He's playing golf again. He's playing really well. People were surprised that he played so well. You know, I happen to think that he won't get back together. Right. I happen to think that he's better off not getting back together. Do you think [Inaudible] get him back? I happen to think that he looks better and a lot cooler if he doesn't get back together. Right. I think he gets back together, he's going to look like an intact guy because everyone knows as soon as he comes into the house, the door's going to be locked and, you know, it's going to be impossible, all right? Can he ever go back and get the sponsors he used to have? No. Can he go that brand or is it permanently ruined? He can't get those sponsors. He can get other sponsors but I don't think he can ever get those sponsors. First of all, you know, you could make that case, a two percent case that they were disloyal to him. You know, they dropped him pretty quickly -- Right. Other than Nike, but they dropped him pretty quickly so you know. But I don't think you could ever get those. He had the Rolls-Royce of sponsors. He did. He had a lot of sponsors. I mean and you can never -- I don't think he could ever go back and get those sponsors -- I mean -- And the housing development just in the North or South Carolina. Ruined, right? Well, I mean, first of all, it's that a lot of trouble to start off with but you know, because of what happened with the world and the economy but you know, that was based on Tiger Woods and family values. Doesn't it -- How about that developer building that sucker? I know he's got to be in a panic because -- But I have to tell you, that developer, I saw an interview recently and he was very loyal to Tiger. Yeah, he's stuck with him. But, Donald, can you imagine building a brand where all you have to do is basically sit back and they throw the money at you for commercial endorsements because he's squeaky clean. Everybody loves him. Over a $100, 000, 000 a year. I mean, can you imagine losing that? He must be going insane. Well, and losing it for what? Because, you know, when you talk about the women what did you think of his choice of women. I actually thought he liked it down and dirty. In other words, I have a theory that Elin probably was not that great in bed, you know? Oh, she's a nice girl. She's a nice girl. Okay. I interviewed many of the girls. We had a Tiger Woods mistress beauty pageant. Oh. Cause you had Donald as a judge, yeah. I was going to call you to judge but -- I thought I would have been a fantastic judge absolute. We crowned the girls. Each of the girls was very different but it seemed to me, they were very strange. Okay, now, who is the best looking of the girls? Well, I -- Not the one that won the beauty pageant. I was very disappointed in you, Howard. The one [Inaudible] Well, -- Won the beauty pageant. It wasn't about -- I saw that in one of the shows, the one that won the beauty pageant should not have won. You're wrong, because we were looking for the best mistress and not only was she cute, but she was a great mistress because she was really, truly in love with him. She was everything that -- How do you know that though? I could tell. You could. Okay. She was the best mistress. She was You are not a professional. I'll tell you how I know she love him. Okay, what about the stripper? Did you think the stripper was good looking? Yeah, too stripper-ish for me. And it's Gloria [Inaudible]. She's got this -- Oh, man. Every time you see her, it's like "give me a break""." Why do you think she represents these [Inaudible]? I don't get it. And I hear that a lot of money was given to the one, Rachel. Yes. Who is, you know, just -- Why did he give Rachel Uchitel $10,000,000? I don't understand. Well, I don't know that he did that, okay? Right. I don't know that he did it but when I watch Gloria [Inaudible] representing the stripper. The stripper was crying. Although I have to say, the stripper was pretty good looking. Do you agree? Yes, she's just on my show. I mean in all fairness, you know, a lot of people say "Oh But none of them were, were, were nines certainly like Elin but I think it's a thing about -- Well, what did you -- did you think the stripper was [Inaudible]? I thought the strip -- She was just on my show. She's very good looking. And she does a position where Tiger Woods -- I'm going to be a little bit graphic. All right. Tiger stood her on her head. Listen to this. Splutter. No, no, no. He put his penis in her behind. And then, would put his fingers in the vagina and she would squirt all over. And now, I don't think Elin was doing that. I don't, I have a feeling Elin never heard of this before. I -- I -- I I think that -- I think that's completely foreign to her. Right. Well, one thing we have -- Have you ever had that position? No? I haven't. Exactly. We've learned about [Inaudible] with definite. Right. He is not gay. Do you agree with that? He is absolutely not gay and listen -- I remember, you interviewed one of the great interviews of all time, you interviewed a guy who is saying he only had one or two events with a man but that he wasn't gay. You said any party that had one or two events with a man is gay. Absolutely. [Inaudible] gay. Absolutely. You know it and I know it. How many events have you had with a man? Zero. Exactly. Not even a thought. You're really [Inaudible]. With all that I've had, I've never had a thought. There's never been like a big thought process. You know. Even when you were young? Let's say a priest or something. Prep school. Prep school. Boner fight. No, never even, like, at thought. In other words -- It was written about you, you had a boner fight at prep school. Let me put it this way. During the event, right? There's never a thought of Jimmy or Ronald or any of that. No. No thoughts. Isn't it true when you were a prep school there was a boner fight between you and two gentlemen? No. No. Okay, it must have been somebody else. No. All right, listen to me. You're on a roll. I'm happy for you. I see you still feuding with Rosie O'Donnell. No patching that up. No, I'm not feuding. I mean, I don't, I don't think about every time I go and ask me about Rosie O'Donnell. She's a loser. I mean, she's terrible. She doesn't have very much talent. She coming back to [Inaudible] I'll tell you what. She's got a great agent. I mean, losing, her variety show drew flies. She drew flies, right. Nobody watched it. Her other show, they threw her off the air. She, she, you know, the view, she chickened out. She was afraid of Elisabeth Hasselbeck who I gave great respect. I gave a lot of respect. She really beat the crap out of Rosie and instead of showing up for another two weeks, she quit like a quitter and now her agent gets her probably another show. So I say, whoever Rosie O'Donnell's agent is, he's a great agent. But Rosie is, you know, I mean I know her. Hey, Howard, she went to my wedding. Well, yeah. I didn't think of it so -- I like Rosie. I just was on her show. It's serious. Oh, you did. You like Rosie. I like her. Oh, okay. Okay. Well, that's good. Hey, maybe she's -- I'm going to bring you two together. I'm sure she's. Hey, listen. I'm sure, she's -- You think you can make the peace? I'm going to make the peace with each other. [Inaudible] a fine person. I'm going to make the peace between the two. You know, like Rosie, Cyndi Lauper on the Apprentice. Yeah, she likes you too. I said "Where were you Right. You got her right over there. What -- Listen, one last question. If you weren't married today, who is the woman you would be chasing? And I'm going to say, it's Kate Beckinsale. No, no. No? No. No, I would -- I mean, if I weren't, -- Go ahead. You know, I would never, I don't even think I have -- I'd better not get into this conversation now. No. Come on. If you were single, This conversation, this conversation gets me nowhere. Donald Trump, is -- This conversation -- Howard, this conversation is nothing but trouble. Sounds like a man who's been trained. Absolutely. You know what, your wife's had it out with you, hasn't she? When you once told me recently you said Donald let me ask you if your wife was a great beauty was in a massive automobile accident That's right. Would you leave her now or would you wake her up? Yeah, what is the proper time to -- That got me in a lot of trouble. Yeah, what is the proper amount of time to leave your wife if she's been in a massive car accident? I gave you a great answer. I said I would never leave in a million years. I would definitely [Inaudible]. You were smart. You said that was a brilliant answer. No, you were a gentleman. I remember, you said two months and I always thought it was a month. I thought you were a true gentleman say -- You said, would you leave immediately or would you wait for about a month. And your marriage is going strong. Yes. Very good. And sexually still pleased. Very good. No kidding. No problem. How many times a week are you down to? Down to. Come on. Down to. Yes. Down to. Do you understand that we're the business of marriage, don't you, Howard? Can I ask you a question? We have a very good relation. I want you to help me out with something. That -- So when you're horny, -- Right. And marriage, you know, and you've got a kid, young child at home. There were times your wife's just too tired of sex and you understand. Do you, do you masturbate to take care of the problem? No. So when's the last time you masturbated? Long time ago. Honestly. Some time previous to knowing women. Really? Come on. That's a lot and you know what? it's a lot of work and it gets you nowhere. You know I'm shocked to hear you say that. No, no. I'm not. I was never big into that world. I want you all to watch Donald Trump's [Inaudible]. Let me ask something. No porno? You don't sit there on the computer and -- No. He -- by the way, when Rod Blagojevich was on The Apprentice -- Right. Who was the former governor of Illinois, -- Which really caused a stir and that guy was amazing. Did you like Rod Blagojevich? I thought it was a nice guy. Now, now. I think he tried very hard to be nice to, which was very smart because he's got a trial coming up like in weeks. You know, Donald was very smart too because he pointed that out when Blagojevich was head of the team and he had to make all the decisions. He would never say that anybody deserved to be fired. No, he was calling the cast members ma'am and sir. He's on good b -- how many years calling could he --? [Inaudible] calling Michael Johnson sir. Sir. Would it be okay if I spoke? How many -- A U. S. Governor How many -- He was so nice that he went to keep the black vote. Okay. Yeah. He was so nice. He still like going to the voters. No, no. I said, you can't be this. Illinois politics is pretty tough, right. I think you can't be this nice, Rod. You've got to let it come out. And you know what? He was there. He was playing to all of these people that are potential jurors. And I think that's probably very smart. Will he go to jail? I think he might win. No kidding. Yeah, I think he might win. I mean, you know, I felt badly for the guy. I felt sorry for him and you know, say what you want. I've known a lot of people that get into this kind of trouble and they crawl into a corner. They go home. They want to go home to mommy or they commit suicide. And lots of shit. Right. Right. This guy, I mean, he's just out there. That's what I'm saying. It might be crazy. My name is Rod Blagojevich and I'm not guilty as Josh. Just the way he introduces -- Yeah. [Inaudible] to everybody. And he says he's ready to fight in court. He want to fight this? Really, I mean, you got to hand it to him. Like him, not like him, whether you respect him or not, the guy is a fighter. Did you used to hang out with Bernie Madoff? No, but I knew him because Palm Beach, you know, -- Right. At that big place in Palm Beach and he'd be at Mar-a-Lago or he'd be at my golf. I have a great golf club at Palm Beach Trump International and he'd be there. Did you ever like --? His brother was a member. Always a member of Trump International and you know, Did he ever say to you "Listen Well, I'd speak to him and [Inaudible] it. You know, I have, at Mar-a-Lago, we have all the big events, all the big balls because I have the big ballroom. You have the biggest ballroom. And I see him. I see him. It's always nice to have that. Yes. And I see him, and I see him, but then, I say to people "Who do you invest your money with?""and they say ""Madoff Wow. Unlike Madoff. And I say "Who is this guy Right. What do you invest? "Why Where do we, what, why do you think you were smart enough not to invest in him? I mean, you're after a good return on your money. You hear the guy's returning 10 percent on, on, on your investment. Why do you think you never invested? Well, I'd hear stories about him because Palm Beach was, you know, I used to use the word "Ground Zero"". But now Right. That was the ultimate [? ]. Right. And all these guys, one guy puts in $200, 000, 000. Right. And then, which is everything he had and then, he mortgaged his house for $10, 000, 000. In other words, you want to get a little bit more, right? Right. Right. Good Lord. And by the way, he's now looking for a job. In fact, I think I'm going to hire him as a caddy next weekend. That's true. But they put in, they put it 100% of their worth into this one guy. And you wouldn't do that. [Inaudible] See, I was down there. I mean, I'd see it and I didn't know. What did I know? I like to invest my own money. You know, it's called like "Let me invest my own money"" Right. Okay. You do the same probably or don't [Inaudible]. You have -- You have an investor actually. I understand. I know who your guy is. You have like a guy that invest your money. Be careful. But, but you know I like to invest my own money how it is. Like I can watch CNBC and say "I'll pick Johnson and Johnson just as well as somebody else"" and say ""I'll pick Johnson and Johnson" So in other words, when you go into the market -- 0.55 When you go into the market, you sit there, you look at the stocks and you picked on them. Well, I've never, I've never been and I feel foolish for the last year but I've never been a stock guy. Right. Of course, I felt great two years ago. You know, when the market crashed it. I've never been a stock guy but I've never really been a stock guy. [Inaudible] You put all your money in real estate. I put it in different things or you know, stupidly. Today, you get one percent of your money or less, right? So you put it mostly in bonds and things like that. Yeah, I've been, I've been sort of, you know, as I've gotten older, I've become conservative. Right. I don't know what's going to happen. Stocks are going up but I watch them go up and then I watch them come crashing down and I had a lot of very unhappy friends so it's a crap year. So what should a guy who's listening now invest in today? Well, I think today is a great time and I wouldn't have said this two years ago. In fact, I didn't, on your show, if you asked me this question a couple of years ago. Today is a great time to invest in real estate. I think this is the time to go out and buy a house, buy an apartment, buy stuff. Get it from a bank. The bank will give you great financing because they already have it. Because the thing is right now, the market's depressed and now is when you buy. This is a great time to buy real estate. Is that what you're doing right now? Yes, I bought a lot of it. I just bought 850 acres at Washington on the Potomac River. That's so phenomenal. That's incredible. I picked it up, I've been at it years and I just got it. And you will develop that into -- Yeah, it will be phenomenal. I mean, I think development but I mean, I bought, I've bought -- [Inaudible] why don't we buy 850 acres on the Potomac? Because, you know, Donald doesn't tell us about these deals. [Inaudible] Listen, you got to see Donald Trump host "Donald J. Trump's Fabulous World of Golf"" airing tonight at 9:00 on the golf channel and see Yeah. Absolutely. I'm definitely thinking about it. Listen, I love talking to you. I ran into your daughter. Boy, is she looking better and better. She is beautiful and great, and she really does have a good marriage so it's nice. She is some catch. Well, not anymore. She's caught. Oh, believe me. She'll be on the market again. Oh, stop it. He's going to get tired of that guy. I miss being -- I haven't done your show that much lately and it's so much fun. It's very invigorating. You're busy. I have been busy but you know, it's like, your show is great. I mean, there's a reason -- Thank you. For success. There's always a reason for success. Right. You know, you know that, right? And I'm usually the reason. You are the reason. Right You are the reason and Robin's a big help. Oh, yeah. Have a good time folks. All right. Listen. Have fun and as we say, well, it was only a glitch, you understand? Yes, I do. I do. I understand. All right? I said that wrong. Bye Donald. Thanks, Robin. The Great Donald Trump. There he is, going off and he's got 850 acres now on the Potomac and --