Interview: Donald Trump on The Howard Stern Show - February 12, 2007

Howard Stern

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And I will say, you've got to get rid of this name.

Donald Trump

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Howard Stern

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Did you hear what I did?

Donald Trump

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You have to change your name out.

Howard Stern

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Well, did you hear what I did? I called AP this morning. I said like Donald Trump, you know his wife used to call him the Donald. I am now going to be known as the Howard.

Robin Quivers

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Well, there's something with that guy that it's good, more than meets the eye. There's something bad about him.

Howard Stern

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Howard K. Stern? Yes. I had a run-in with the guy on the air. I just saw him this morning.

Donald Trump

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Well, I've never felt -- this guy is weird.

Robin Quivers

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You know what's weird about it, though? It's like you know the name Trump. You know, you build it up. I was was on -- where is it? Riverside Boulevard. There's 3 Trump buildings in a row.

Howard Stern

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Robin Quivers

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And it's like, wow. You know, Donald really does have a lot of buildings, and each lobby is nicer than the next.

Howard Stern

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Donald Trump

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Well, let me tell you what he's doing. He's all -- he's international at this point.

Robin Quivers

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Yes, I know. So...

Howard Stern

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I'm going all over the place. But Howard K. Stern is international.

Robin Quivers

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That's true.

Howard Stern

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Yes, but imagine, it's like all of a sudden, some guy named Donald Trump...

Robin Quivers

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Is in a middle of something like this.

Donald Trump

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And he's a flaming asshole.

Howard Stern

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I wouldn't be happy. I wouldn't be happy.

Donald Trump

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Howard Stern

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Yes. Just because...

Donald Trump

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I wouldn't be happy. I wonder -- I assume that was his original name. I assume that.

Howard Stern

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But let me ask you something. In a way, isn't it good, too, that like -- imagine like, let's say the guy's name was Don Imus.

Robin Quivers

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And every minute on the news, it was Imus. Imus. I would go mad. I'd be kind of [Inaudible].

Howard Stern

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Donald Trump

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And as his stock goes up, you've got to figure, right?

Robin Quivers

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Yeah. I'm like thinking like anybody who hasn't come to satellite yet that's hearing Howard Stern, Howard Stern.

Donald Trump

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Well, I guess you could look at it both ways, Howard, but there's something about that guy, seriously, that I think he's just bad news.

Howard Stern

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Yes. It...

Donald Trump

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You know, all of a sudden, the kid, the young 20-year old boy, he goes -- and a lot of people said, he had an overdose and who gave it, and Howard Stern was with him in all this.

Robin Quivers

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Howard K. Stern.

Howard Stern

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And then they said, Anna was angry at Howard K. Stern because of the son. Then was he involved? And then all of a sudden, she goes, there's something bad about this guy.

Donald Trump

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Yes. Somehow, he's the only one left standing.

Howard Stern

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All right, let's say he's good.

Donald Trump

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And then somewhat like his whole life was devoted to her, and I mean, it's like, give me a break. You know, look -- I mean, look, I knew Anna, and you knew Anna. And it's somebody that you sort of had a -- you've felt very sorry for. But it's hard to devote your entire life to it.

Howard Stern

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One of the all-time -- of course. One of the all-time beautiful faces, right, in the world.

Donald Trump

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All time.

Robin Quivers

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And you know, not bright...

Howard Stern

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Not bright, but you know, maybe smarter than we think. I don't know. But not bright.

Donald Trump

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That's what Donald said over the weekend. I was like, what?

Howard Stern

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Well, maybe. I mean, I wouldn't know what her SATs were, but you -- but Donald Trump makes...

Donald Trump

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I know a lot of beautiful models. And they're saying, "Oh

Howard Stern

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Yeah, but Donald, you make a good point.

Robin Quivers

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I [Inaudible] to say, you know, not bright. They talk about Paris Hilton. Is she bright? Is she not bright? Well, you know, I don't know. I know her from the time she's like 10 years old or younger, and she's making a hell of a living.

Donald Trump

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Well, that's true. But you know, you make a good point. You're sitting here and you're analyzing Anna Nicole Smith, and then you look at this Howard K. Stern guy. He's a lawyer and his only client is Anna Nicole Smith.

Howard Stern

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It get's even creepier, even creepier.

Robin Quivers

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Howard is a loser. He's a loser. I think he's some kind of a degenerate, in my opinion.

Donald Trump

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And his whole life evolved around her.

Robin Quivers

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Let me tell you something, Donald.

Howard Stern

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And by the way, I give him zero, that it's his baby.

Donald Trump

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Right. Nobody believes that but him.

Robin Quivers

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Me, too. I was going to ask you that.

Donald Trump

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I give him zero. I think it's the other kid's baby.

Howard Stern

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Birkhead?

Robin Quivers

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I think the Zsa Zsa Gabor guy. I mean, that -- the Zsa Zsa Gabor loser came out...

Howard Stern

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Husband. Yes.

Donald Trump

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The prince?

Howard Stern

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Have you known him?

Donald Trump

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Imagine, you're married to somebody and you announce that you think it might be your baby, that's wonderful.

Howard Stern

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Do you know Zsa Zsa Gabor's husband.

Robin Quivers

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Loser.

Howard Stern

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Right. Now how...

Donald Trump

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Well, let me tell you something about Howard K. Stern. I just read that he opened a talent agency just for Anna Nicole. I think that was even before he met her.

Howard Stern

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I don't know, but hey, let me ask you something.

Robin Quivers

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This guy is a sicko, in my opinion. And I'll tell you what, and I really meant zero chance. No, I think the baby is probably the blond guy. Okay?

Howard Stern

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The baby is from the blond guy.

Donald Trump

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Uh huh.

Robin Quivers

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Any chance it could...

Howard Stern

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Donald Trump

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Howard K. Stern, whatever the hell his name. Is that his real name, by the way?

Howard Stern

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That's what I'm questioning, too. Is Howard K. Stern...

Donald Trump

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To my frustration, you were extremely hot. You've always been hot. And all of a sudden, he changes that. Who knows? It probably is. It probably is.

Howard Stern

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What are the odds of somebody both naming their kid...

Donald Trump

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There's not a lot of people who change their name to Stern.

Howard Stern

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Maybe it was Stern and he changed it to Howard. I don't know.

Donald Trump

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Right?

Howard Stern

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Donald Trump

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I don't know. But boy, I'll tell you what, that guy is bad news. And right now, I think of you every time I see him on television. I think of you and I'm saying, he can't be thrilled.

Howard Stern

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No. I'm laying in bed all week, and I go, I built up the name Howard Stern. I've told this story earlier. Dee Snider's twisted sister said to me once, you've actually kind of made the name Howard cool. That's a shitty name. You got stuck with a shitty name, but you know, it's like how Bruce Springsteen made Bruce kind of cool because that's another shitty name. And he said, you kind of pulled it off. And I'm sitting there watching it all go down the drain because of Howard K. Stern and Dee Snider...

Donald Trump

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Howard, for years you've been criticizing him, right? For years you have not been a fan of his.

Howard Stern

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And you know a loser when you see one, right?

Donald Trump

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Robin Quivers

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How would you feel if he became the hot Howard Stern and you became the secondary?

Howard Stern

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Donald Trump

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Well, that's what's happening.

Howard Stern

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Well, they're calling him Howard Stern now?

Donald Trump

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I know. It's very tough.

Robin Quivers

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What am I going to do?

Howard Stern

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I don't know what you're going to do, Howard. It's very, very tough.

Robin Quivers

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It's a nightmare.

Howard Stern

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I don't know. I'm walking around feeling -- listen to this. And depending on what they find out about this guy, it could get worse.

Donald Trump

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In Australia? I just kind of figured, this story will eventually die. But in Australia, the newspapers are talking about how Shock Jock Howard Stern is claiming to be the father of the baby.

Howard Stern

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And I got letters from Denmark, as far away as Denmark, offering me condolences on losing my girlfriend.

Robin Quivers

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That's tough. How about all of the fathers that are stepping up? How about all of these guys and every one of them? Who really -- let's say a real player, a really cool cat, do you think anybody stands up, and as a news conference, did you think you might be the father?

Howard Stern

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Well, one thing about her, she had plenty of action. Do you think she actually had any action with Zsa Zsa Gabor's husband? Do you think he ever [Inaudible] her?

Robin Quivers

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Absolutely not.

Howard Stern

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Absolutely not.

Donald Trump

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Howard Stern

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I do. I'm going to say yes, and I'm going to tell you what the story was that I heard.

Donald Trump

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Go ahead.

Howard Stern

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Zsa Zsa -- Now you've met Zsa Zsa Gabor's husband?

Donald Trump

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I've met him once.

Howard Stern

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Right. Because they say, he's not -- he's a prince, but the family bought the name. Like he's...

Robin Quivers

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He is not top of the line.

Howard Stern

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But they say that Anna Nicole Smith, being, you know, out of it as she was, she wanted to be a princess. So she was saying to him for 10 years, please marry me and make me a princess. She bought into the fact that he was a prince. And he said, he would not leave Zsa Zsa. And he offered to adopt Anna Nicole Smith, but Zsa Zsa was sort of against it because she's dying.

Donald Trump

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That's actually what happened to his father. His father was adopted by whoever had a title.

Howard Stern

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This is tha Zsa Zsa who was a tough woman, you know, tough and crazy. And she's now sitting in a wheelchair. Her mind is okay, but everything else has gone [Inaudible]

Donald Trump

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Robin Quivers

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And she's watching this guy on television, announcing that this is his baby, and she's can't do anything about it. She's bound to a wheelchair. She can't move.

Donald Trump

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Howard Stern

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Today, I've got a tape of him...

Robin Quivers

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You think she's happy right now, Howard?

Howard Stern

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No. I think it's a crazy world. I mean, I know...

Donald Trump

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Today, I've got a tape of him saying that Zsa Zsa is a little upset.

Howard Stern

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I always...

Donald Trump

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I don't think she's a little upset. And you know, probably from his standpoint, it's very good there's not a thing she can do about it.

Howard Stern

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I've always loved Zsa Zsa Gabor. I mean, I thought Zsa Zsa Gabor was a kind of a cool lady. Like she would come on talk shows and say whatever was on her mind. And she's got to be...

Robin Quivers

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Yes. In a way, she was cool.

Howard Stern

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Her mind's got to be, like, just fuming.

Donald Trump

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But she was the one who married this dude and was walking around, telling people to call her princess.

Howard Stern

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You know the toughest thing there? She was legit. She was a great beauty also.

Donald Trump

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Howard Stern

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And there's nothing good about the clock. Please remember that, Howard.

Donald Trump

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Howard Stern

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Don't I know.

Donald Trump

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I know you think we're all getting better-looking as we get older. There's nothing good about the clock. Take a look at Zsa Zsa.

Howard Stern

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You know, interestingly about Anna Nicole, I knew her model agency very well. She was with Elite when it was good. Now, it's not good. Now the Trump Agency is the hot agency, believe it or not. But she was with Elite Models. And a woman who read -- a French woman named Monique Pillard. She ran it. And I said to her about 10 years ago, I said, "Monique

Donald Trump

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Howard Stern

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Yes, it's true.

Donald Trump

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When she came to New York, I saw Anna Nicole Smith the first day or week that she was in New York. She was 6 feet tall. She had the best body. She had the best face. She had the best hair I've ever seen.

Howard Stern

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You know, hair is my thing. I'm really into hair up right now, okay? And she has the most beautiful -- I mean, she had the best hair, but she had the best face and the best body. You said, the best face. She had the best body.

Donald Trump

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Howard Stern

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She did.

Donald Trump

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Monique said that -- now, when she opened your mouth, it that was different. Let's face it.

Howard Stern

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It ruined it.

Donald Trump

00:09:20 - 00:09:24 (5 sec)

When she opened her mouth -- because I said to her, "What did you do?"" She said

Howard Stern

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Wasn't anything more sad than watching her gain weight? I mean, it's almost like wasting that beauty and letting herself just get fat. Well, let me ask you this. How did she lose the weight, do you think?

Donald Trump

00:09:34 - 00:09:38 (3 sec)

I think it was -- well, listen, I -- Do you think she had the operation?

Robin Quivers

00:09:38 - 00:09:41 (3 sec)

I don't think she -- you know, it had to be, come to think, because...

Donald Trump

00:09:41 - 00:09:50 (9 sec)

Yes, I always said she had the operation. You know, I don't believe it was the product. And by the way, the products that she was endorsing was not in her refrigerator in the Bahamas. It was another product.

Howard Stern

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Slimfast, yes.

Donald Trump

00:09:52 - 00:09:54 (2 sec)

I'm sure they're thrilled.

Howard Stern

00:09:54 - 00:10:00 (6 sec)

Well, they're claiming that somebody set up that picture that went in and changed the refrigerator around to embarrass Trim Spa. I don't know.

Donald Trump

00:10:00 - 00:10:01 (1 sec)

Probably not.

Howard Stern

00:10:01 - 00:10:02 (1 sec)

Who knows? But I think you're right.

Robin Quivers

00:10:02 - 00:10:03 (2 sec)

I think she had the operation.

Howard Stern

00:10:03 - 00:10:08 (5 sec)

I think you're right. In fact, they just found out that she had had 2 breast surgeries since the birth of her child.

Robin Quivers

00:10:08 - 00:10:09 (0 sec)

You're kidding!

Donald Trump

00:10:09 - 00:10:10 (2 sec)

I think I read that in the paper today.

Howard Stern

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That's crazy.

Donald Trump

00:10:11 - 00:10:16 (5 sec)

She had some definite problems. But I think she had the operation. It was the only way. I have friends that...

Howard Stern

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You hung out with her?

Donald Trump

00:10:17 - 00:10:18 (1 sec)

What?

Howard Stern

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Did you hang out with her?

Donald Trump

00:10:18 - 00:10:20 (1 sec)

I knew her pretty well.

Howard Stern

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Did you ever bang her when she was hot?

Donald Trump

00:10:21 - 00:10:23 (2 sec)

No, no. I never did.

Howard Stern

00:10:23 - 00:10:25 (2 sec)

Did you ever try to bang her?

Donald Trump

00:10:25 - 00:10:30 (5 sec)

I mean, I knew -- I never tried. I never got past the mouth

Howard Stern

00:10:30 - 00:10:31 (1 sec)

Did you think about it?

Donald Trump

00:10:31 - 00:10:33 (2 sec)

You know, I was -- maybe I was crazy.

Howard Stern

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I was hoping you were the father of the baby.

Donald Trump

00:10:34 - 00:10:36 (1 sec)

[Inaudible] our, I might have been the only one.

Howard Stern

00:10:36 - 00:10:38 (2 sec)

Did you ever fuck your girl's girlfriend?

Donald Trump

00:10:38 - 00:10:57 (19 sec)

But you know, interestingly, I have friends that have been fat all their lives, business guys, they're slobs, and they've been really -- and not because they're fat, but they're tough, rough guys. They'll be making a deal and chugging down -- they're rich as hell, and they'll be chucking down hamburgers while they're making this. You know the kind of guy I'm talking about, right?

Howard Stern

00:10:57 - 00:10:57 (0 sec)

Their whole life, they're fat. Like 350 pounds, 300 pounds, and they're tough guys, smart guys. All of a sudden, this guy walks into my office the other day. I have 3 or 4 of them. And he weighed like 170. I said, what are you doing? He goes, "ahhh."" They don't want to admit to the operation because they'd look like

Donald Trump

00:10:57 - 00:11:16 (19 sec)

Howard Stern

00:11:16 - 00:11:16 (1 sec)

Why don't they?

Donald Trump

00:11:16 - 00:11:19 (3 sec)

That we gave up, and we're just -- they had their stomach removed.

Howard Stern

00:11:19 - 00:11:23 (4 sec)

But they never look good after they do it. You know what, they look worse, Howard. That's the one thing.

Robin Quivers

00:11:23 - 00:11:27 (4 sec)

They do. Know he doesn't want to. They And they're miserable.

Howard Stern

00:11:27 - 00:11:29 (2 sec)

And they gain -- look at this guy out of American Idol, the black guy.

Donald Trump

00:11:29 - 00:11:29 (0 sec)

He's fat again.

Howard Stern

00:11:29 - 00:11:30 (1 sec)

He's fat again.

Donald Trump

00:11:30 - 00:11:32 (2 sec)

I tell you, they don't look -- It's true.

Howard Stern

00:11:32 - 00:11:33 (1 sec)

How do you eat? How do you at when...

Donald Trump

00:11:33 - 00:11:40 (7 sec)

It's do important to look a certain way. Some of these guys, they lose 100 pounds, 150 pounds, and they look sick. They don't look...

Howard Stern

00:11:40 - 00:11:42 (2 sec)

Do you think Star Jones ever looked healthy?

Donald Trump

00:11:42 - 00:11:44 (2 sec)

No, she looks -- I don't think she looks as good.

Howard Stern

00:11:44 - 00:11:46 (1 sec)

She looks like a deflated prune.

Donald Trump

00:11:46 - 00:11:53 (7 sec)

You know, the -- so many people, when they lose this weight, this a large amount of weight, they never look good again. It's amazing.

Howard Stern

00:11:53 - 00:11:55 (2 sec)

That's right. Yes, it is amazing.

Donald Trump

00:11:55 - 00:11:58 (3 sec)

Thank goodness, you don't have that problem, Howard.

Howard Stern

00:11:58 - 00:11:59 (1 sec)

No, no. I don't eat.

Robin Quivers

00:11:59 - 00:12:02 (3 sec)

So listen, I feel sorry for you with the Howard K. Stern.

Howard Stern

00:12:02 - 00:12:03 (1 sec)

You're thinking of me.

Donald Trump

00:12:03 - 00:12:04 (1 sec)

What do you think he has to do?

Howard Stern

00:12:04 - 00:12:06 (2 sec)

Yes, what would you do if you --

Donald Trump

00:12:06 - 00:12:09 (3 sec)

I think he is responsible personally for the Anna Nicole tragedy. I think he's responsible.

Howard Stern

00:12:09 - 00:12:17 (8 sec)

Well, how do you -- let's be serious for a second. When you say responsible, here's a girl who is out of control. He's a hanger-on, all right? I would agree to that.

Donald Trump

00:12:17 - 00:12:22 (5 sec)

Well, you know, he's a total hanger-on-er, but I think he may be losing the power of the hanging on. And maybe...

Howard Stern

00:12:22 - 00:12:24 (2 sec)

You're not suggesting you think he did something.

Robin Quivers

00:12:24 - 00:12:27 (3 sec)

Do you think it's possible that he was feeding her the drugs? Do you think that's possible?

Donald Trump

00:12:27 - 00:12:30 (2 sec)

No. I mean, it's possible, But I don't think that's the case.

Robin Quivers

00:12:30 - 00:12:31 (1 sec)

Look, all of the drugs they took out of the room...

Howard Stern

00:12:31 - 00:12:40 (9 sec)

I'll tell you what, I think he's bad news. You know, if people called -- I know -- a lot of friends of mine, if people called Anna Nicole they couldn't get through another word. She was like the answering service. He would...

Donald Trump

00:12:40 - 00:12:40 (1 sec)

He blocked everything.

Howard Stern

00:12:40 - 00:12:42 (2 sec)

Yes, but -- let's take a look at it this way.

Donald Trump

00:12:42 - 00:12:51 (8 sec)

It's not like he did a good job because look at the way she ended up. You know, it's one thing if she ended up and, you know, wonderful times, right? But she ended up the worst.

Robin Quivers

00:12:51 - 00:12:52 (1 sec)

Well, I don't agree with you.

Donald Trump

00:12:52 - 00:12:57 (5 sec)

This guy was like the secretary, the lawyer, the whole thing. I think he was a real sicko.

Howard Stern

00:12:57 - 00:13:03 (6 sec)

All of the drugs they took out of her room, they say, had his name on them, the hotel room.

Donald Trump

00:13:03 - 00:13:08 (5 sec)

I believe he's responsible for that very bad things that have happened to her.

Howard Stern

00:13:08 - 00:13:13 (4 sec)

And by the way, notice that I didn't bother you during the whole Rosie O'Donnell thing. You know what?

Donald Trump

00:13:13 - 00:13:14 (1 sec)

No, I appreciate that.

Howard Stern

00:13:14 - 00:13:16 (2 sec)

I'm thinking if you wanted to call in about it, you would.

Donald Trump

00:13:16 - 00:13:22 (7 sec)

Is Rosie going to be next? Is she a mess or what? You look at that slob. Is she a mess...

Robin Quivers

00:13:22 - 00:13:58 (36 sec)

You know, for years -- I've got to tell you something. As long as you're on the phone, I'll tell you. I had a feud with her for years, and I said some horrible things about her. And in fact, we even had a phony phone call to her on our show from the mayor of Philadelphia, and I calling her a fat slob, all kinds of wild things. And when I saw that -- when she came out of the closet, I felt better about her. I felt that she -- let me tell you my story. I thought that she was being honest about her sexuality. There was no more of this, you know, Tom Cruise is the most handsome man. And I felt that when I saw a special on HBO, where her and her girlfriend were...

Howard Stern

00:13:58 - 00:13:59 (1 sec)

Her wife.

Donald Trump

00:13:59 - 00:14:00 (1 sec)

Her wife.

Howard Stern

00:14:00 - 00:14:33 (34 sec)

Her wife. At that time, girlfriend, were really instrumental. They were experiencing a lot of homophobia. They took a cruise with a bunch of gay people, and the gay people were being attacked in the Bahamas by -- I think it was the Bahamas, but I don't know, one of these countries. And -- one of these islands. And they stood up and they really took a stand against homophobia. And they were taking a lot of shit. And my view of her softened. I felt -- I just ran into her at a restaurant recently, Nobu, and we sort of made our peace. And I told her I was very proud of that special...

Donald Trump

00:14:33 - 00:14:47 (14 sec)

Yes, but she did that for her own. Let me tell you, she's a bad person. I know her. She's a bad person. She's a -- it's interesting. When I was doing one of the shows, The Today Show, one of the cameraman came up to me. He said, "Mr. Trump please don't ever stop on Rosie."" I said

Howard Stern

00:14:47 - 00:14:47 (0 sec)

Really?

Donald Trump

00:14:47 - 00:15:01 (14 sec)

She was always mean to the smaller people. She would treat us like dogs with her satire. She would curse at us. She would shout at us. She was sick. Please don't ever give up on her. She's a horrible person. This is the camera guy. You know, he's the camera guy.

Howard Stern

00:15:01 - 00:15:06 (5 sec)

Yes. No, I've heard those -- yes, I've heard those stories as well.

Donald Trump

00:15:06 - 00:15:08 (2 sec)

She's a horror show. She's bad news.

Howard Stern

00:15:08 - 00:15:11 (3 sec)

So what's the deal? You're going to -- is it going to be weird if you run into her somewhere?

Donald Trump

00:15:11 - 00:15:13 (2 sec)

No, no. You don't t give a shit.

Howard Stern

00:15:13 - 00:15:27 (14 sec)

I don't -- Howard, honestly, there's billions of people in the world. I like some of them, okay? You know, just have 2 or 3 friends, you know? You're my friend. But the fact is, hey, Howard, who cares? I go on The Today Show, Meredith Vieira, and she says, "is it true that you called her crude?"

Donald Trump

00:15:27 - 00:15:32 (5 sec)

I said, "No. I called her a degenerate."" She's like

Howard Stern

00:15:32 - 00:15:34 (2 sec)

Right, right, right.

Donald Trump

00:15:34 - 00:15:42 (8 sec)

Okay. Did you call het fat? I said, let me ask you, "is she fat?""""I'd rather not answer that question."" I said

Howard Stern

00:15:42 - 00:15:43 (1 sec)

Barbara Walters...

Donald Trump

00:15:43 - 00:15:58 (15 sec)

But [Inaudible] that person. You know what? Rosie is a bully. And as you learn from growing up in your wonderful school that you loved so much when grew up, you love that school so much, but when you have bullies, and I guess you didn't get the chance to hit them back. Basically...

Howard Stern

00:15:58 - 00:15:59 (1 sec)

No, I ran.

Donald Trump

00:15:59 - 00:16:07 (8 sec)

Basically, you've kept that to you. But when you have bullies, you've got to hit them right between the eyes. And you know, I'm very happy she's fat.

Howard Stern

00:16:07 - 00:16:11 (4 sec)

Well, I think she's sorry. I think she's sorry she started it with you.

Donald Trump

00:16:11 - 00:16:20 (9 sec)

Oh no, she doesn't want to -- let me tell you. She is a bad person. She hits Kelly Ripa. She hit Danny DeVito. How about Danny DeVito? Did you see that deal? [Inaudible]

Howard Stern

00:16:20 - 00:16:32 (12 sec)

I think -- yes, I saw that. Kelly Ripa -- I told Kelly Ripa to call in and argue that point because I said, "that's not fair."" Kelly Ripa was not being homophobic in the case of Clay Aiken. Clay Aiken was out of line

Donald Trump

00:16:32 - 00:16:36 (4 sec)

He put his hand in her mouth.

Howard Stern

00:16:36 - 00:16:40 (4 sec)

Yeah. That was disgusting.

Donald Trump

00:16:40 - 00:16:47 (7 sec)

I mean, look. I don't want somebody's hand. You don't even -- I don't want somebody's hand in my mouth.

Howard Stern

00:16:47 - 00:16:54 (7 sec)

I don't want to shake anyone's hand. People have germs.

Donald Trump

00:16:54 - 00:16:58 (4 sec)

Excuse me, you and me both.

Robin Quivers

00:16:58 - 00:17:00 (2 sec)

Right. So I -- if I...

Howard Stern

00:17:00 - 00:17:04 (3 sec)

How about when she did that Tom Selleck -- do you remember that Tom Selleck?

Donald Trump

00:17:04 - 00:17:06 (2 sec)

Oh, that was about the gun.

Howard Stern

00:17:06 - 00:17:08 (2 sec)

Yes, she -- yes.

Donald Trump

00:17:08 - 00:17:15 (7 sec)

This poor guy goes in to talk about some movie or some television show and she starts hitting him, and he didn't know what happened.

Howard Stern

00:17:15 - 00:17:17 (2 sec)

Well, you didn't let that happen.

Donald Trump

00:17:17 - 00:17:21 (4 sec)

He's still -- you know what, he's still wondering -- he's still walking around the streets saying, "What happened?"

Howard Stern

00:17:21 - 00:17:26 (5 sec)

Right. So you said when this came out, you said, "Listen

Donald Trump

00:17:26 - 00:17:37 (11 sec)

Yes, well, I said I was going to fight back. You know, I understand her. I don't like her. She's not a smart person. You know she's not as smart. She's just a bully. She's a loudmouth.

Howard Stern

00:17:37 - 00:17:41 (4 sec)

Is there anything she can do to get back in your good graces?

Donald Trump

00:17:41 - 00:17:41 (1 sec)

If she came in and blew you?

Gary Dell'Abate

00:17:41 - 00:17:42 (1 sec)

Nothing?

Howard Stern

00:17:42 - 00:17:45 (3 sec)

No, no.

Donald Trump

00:17:45 - 00:17:45 (0 sec)

Blow you?

Howard Stern

00:17:45 - 00:17:46 (1 sec)

Donald Trump

00:17:46 - 00:17:52 (6 sec)

No. I'd pay a lot of money for that not to happen. That is one of the most unattractive people.

Howard Stern

00:17:52 - 00:17:53 (1 sec)

And speaking of...

Donald Trump

00:17:53 - 00:18:04 (11 sec)

And you know, she took great offense at the fact that I said she better be careful or I or one of my friends will go and pick up her wife.

Howard Stern

00:18:04 - 00:18:04 (0 sec)

Barbara Walters is...

Donald Trump

00:18:04 - 00:18:10 (5 sec)

Barbara Walters lied. I mean, barbara Walters picked me as one of the most fascinating people last year.

Howard Stern

00:18:10 - 00:18:13 (3 sec)

I wouldn't do that show. She asked me to be on that show.

Donald Trump

00:18:13 - 00:18:21 (8 sec)

Well, Barbara Walters last year, Howard -- I wonder if Barbara -- by the way, I way I wonder Barbara regrets having chosen me as one of the most fascinating.

Howard Stern

00:18:21 - 00:18:32 (10 sec)

No. I don't think she regrets it, but I'm wondering what it's going to be like -- I bet you, two, will make up.

Robin Quivers

00:18:32 - 00:18:34 (2 sec)

I tend to doubt it, really.

Donald Trump

00:18:34 - 00:18:35 (1 sec)

Really?

Howard Stern

00:18:35 - 00:18:35 (1 sec)

You and Barbara?

Donald Trump

00:18:35 - 00:18:39 (4 sec)

You know, somebody said to me, "Oh but you and Barbara were friends."" First of all

Howard Stern

00:18:39 - 00:18:41 (2 sec)

So the lawyer said, "Please

Donald Trump

00:18:41 - 00:18:42 (1 sec)

So I said, "Listen

Howard Stern

00:18:42 - 00:18:44 (2 sec)

But you'll ignore her. You'll ignore her?

Donald Trump

00:18:44 - 00:18:56 (13 sec)

Like she doesn't exist. She doesn't -- Howard, she lied. Now, at first, she lied, but she lied modestly. And I said, "I totally agree."" It's like

Howard Stern

00:18:56 - 00:19:05 (9 sec)

Yeah, but what about the people who came off and said you came off badly during the Rosie feud. They thought that you were too vicious. You know what they mean? Like...

Donald Trump

00:19:05 - 00:19:09 (4 sec)

Well, I think you have to be vicious when you're dealing with a vicious person.

Howard Stern

00:19:09 - 00:19:09 (0 sec)

You know, I'm not -- I'm not that way. You have to be vicious when -- I went to the Wharton School of Finance. I was a great student. I got very good marks and all that stuff, and I sometimes explain that to people. Because sometimes, when you come off extremely vicious, it's not necessarily --

Donald Trump

00:19:09 - 00:19:24 (14 sec)

Howard Stern

00:19:24 - 00:19:24 (1 sec)

Did you get mails?

Donald Trump

00:19:24 - 00:19:27 (3 sec)

It's not necessarily always your great intellect.

Howard Stern

00:19:27 - 00:19:31 (4 sec)

Did you get a lot of e-mails and stuff from people saying you were too vicious? Or did -- were some people against you?

Donald Trump

00:19:31 - 00:19:39 (8 sec)

I got -- I would say 85 percent in favor of the way -- and I had a lot of good friends of mine saying, "Donald

Howard Stern

00:19:39 - 00:19:40 (1 sec)

And I say, because I have to.

Donald Trump

00:19:40 - 00:19:42 (2 sec)

Howard Stern

00:19:42 - 00:19:43 (1 sec)

Like, why not be bothered?

Donald Trump

00:19:43 - 00:20:00 (17 sec)

Genetically, I have to. It's not a question of, you know -- in other words, she makes statements about me that were totally false. They then corrected those statements. But you know what? There was not -- and said was angry, more angry at anything that I gave Miss USA a second chance. How do you like that one, by the way? Isn't that wonderful?

Howard Stern

00:20:00 - 00:20:01 (1 sec)

Oh, I thought it was good. Best Friday to her the other night.

Donald Trump

00:20:01 - 00:20:08 (7 sec)

But that's how it started. Because she was angry that i gave Miss USA a second chance. I know I did the right thing in giving her a second chance.

Howard Stern

00:20:08 - 00:20:18 (10 sec)

Hey, I've got to ask you a question. I'm watching Jimmy Kimmel when Andy Dick put his hands on your daughter. And I said, "that was totally inappropriate."" She was a good sport about it. Were you..."

Donald Trump

00:20:18 - 00:20:25 (8 sec)

She's a great kid. Well, he was seriously -- you know, at first I thought it was a stunt or a gimmick, but then when I watched the tape, I saw that he really had some problems.

Howard Stern

00:20:25 - 00:20:28 (2 sec)

Jimmy did the right thing, dragging him off the set.

Donald Trump

00:20:28 - 00:20:32 (4 sec)

Yeah. I did Jimmy Show, by the way. I did it about 3 or 4 weeks ago.

Howard Stern

00:20:32 - 00:20:32 (0 sec)

He needed something that I didn't believe. Because I didn't really want to do that show because this was right in the heat of that stupid Rosie thing. And I didn't really want to do the show because he's on ABC, and they're on ABC and everything else, right?

Donald Trump

00:20:32 - 00:20:34 (2 sec)

I thought he was great.

Howard Stern

00:20:34 - 00:20:35 (1 sec)

Jimmy is a good guy.

Donald Trump

00:20:35 - 00:20:45 (10 sec)

Howard Stern

00:20:45 - 00:20:45 (0 sec)

So I go on the show. And I agree to do it, and we were going to talk about it. And he actually totally took my side with Barbara against Barbara and Rosie. And he actually did a cartoon of Barbara with her nose growing. You know, meaning, that nose was growing in front of you. But Jimmy, I tell you, he was great. He was funny.

Donald Trump

00:20:45 - 00:21:02 (17 sec)

Howard Stern

00:21:02 - 00:21:03 (1 sec)

He did the right thing.

Robin Quivers

00:21:03 - 00:21:06 (3 sec)

I really liked doing the show. I think the show is doing very well.

Howard Stern

00:21:06 - 00:21:08 (2 sec)

He did. It is. He did the right thing getting rid of Andy.

Donald Trump

00:21:08 - 00:21:10 (2 sec)

Getting rid of Andy.

Howard Stern

00:21:10 - 00:21:12 (2 sec)

Andy was being inappropriate with her.

Donald Trump

00:21:12 - 00:21:16 (4 sec)

Right. My -- when my daughter did the show, like 2 weeks later. And -- by the way, did my daughter looked beautiful?

Howard Stern

00:21:16 - 00:21:23 (7 sec)

Your daughter, I've got to tell you, man. And I know this would kill you, if I wasn't with Beth, I swear, I would make a play for her.

Robin Quivers

00:21:23 - 00:21:26 (3 sec)

Even the thought of it kills me.

Donald Trump

00:21:26 - 00:21:26 (1 sec)

I would be your son-in-law.

Howard Stern

00:21:26 - 00:21:27 (1 sec)

Really? That kills you?

Donald Trump

00:21:27 - 00:21:29 (2 sec)

The thought of it kills me.

Howard Stern

00:21:29 - 00:21:30 (1 sec)

I'm going to tell you the truth

Donald Trump

00:21:30 - 00:21:32 (2 sec)

I have [Inaudible] respect for you.

Howard Stern

00:21:32 - 00:21:33 (1 sec)

I think ...

Donald Trump

00:21:33 - 00:21:37 (4 sec)

I love Beth, and I and I think it's -- I think you can do whatever the hell you want to Beth, and [Inaudible]

Howard Stern

00:21:37 - 00:21:38 (2 sec)

Then I'd be Howard Trump. But can I tell you something? Honestly...

Donald Trump

00:21:38 - 00:21:43 (4 sec)

But I just -- the report. Listen now, there's a report that you're getting married, eh?

Howard Stern

00:21:43 - 00:21:44 (1 sec)

Well, we've we've talked about it.

Donald Trump

00:21:44 - 00:21:46 (2 sec)

I always told you, you would eventually.

Howard Stern

00:21:46 - 00:21:53 (7 sec)

Sort of Robin. Hey can I -- but I -- can I tell you something now? I'm watching that with your daughter, and I go, "You know

Donald Trump

00:21:53 - 00:21:53 (0 sec)

She speaks. She's got a ton of dough. I mean, you know, sort of.

Howard Stern

00:21:53 - 00:21:59 (6 sec)

Donald Trump

00:21:59 - 00:22:00 (1 sec)

She's a great kid.

Howard Stern

00:22:00 - 00:22:06 (6 sec)

She's a great kid. What a great catch. I still think she got implants. She -- her chest looks bigger to me.

Donald Trump

00:22:06 - 00:22:09 (2 sec)

Ohh... But so what? They... Well, she hasn't told me about it.

Howard Stern

00:22:09 - 00:22:26 (17 sec)

Well, that's nothing she's going to discuss with you. No, I don't think so. And can i tell you something? The face, gorgeous. The body, gorgeous. Bright. And I'm sitting here going, you know what, when I met her, there she is, put her on a mini skirt -- when I met her, I thought she was kind of saying to me, I like you.

Donald Trump

00:22:26 - 00:22:28 (2 sec)

Oh, that would make me thrilled.

Howard Stern

00:22:28 - 00:22:29 (1 sec)

And I know she would be with me...

Donald Trump

00:22:29 - 00:22:32 (3 sec)

And then I thought, I'm one of the guys that don't need your money, Howard.

Howard Stern

00:22:32 - 00:22:34 (2 sec)

Yes, but what a rebellion it would be on her part to go out with me.

Donald Trump

00:22:34 - 00:22:36 (3 sec)

I wonder if I needed your money, would I go to it. I don't think so.

Robin Quivers

00:22:36 - 00:22:38 (2 sec)

Why would you hate -- why would you hate, what would you hate...

Donald Trump

00:22:38 - 00:22:41 (3 sec)

I can't do that. I couldn't do it. No matter -- hey, Robin, no matter what...

Robin Quivers

00:22:41 - 00:22:43 (2 sec)

You wouldn't do that.

Howard Stern

00:22:43 - 00:22:45 (2 sec)

If I had Zippo, I'd say, Howard, take it away.

Donald Trump

00:22:45 - 00:22:46 (1 sec)

Keep your money.

Howard Stern

00:22:46 - 00:22:48 (2 sec)

Why would you hate me being your son-in-law?

Donald Trump

00:22:48 - 00:22:54 (6 sec)

I don't know. I can't even imagine -- it's just. You know why? Because you know I love you, but I've listened to you too many years...

Robin Quivers

00:22:54 - 00:22:56 (1 sec)

Is it the Jew thing?

Howard Stern

00:22:56 - 00:22:56 (0 sec)

You know, because a lot of the country club guys, they don't...

Robin Quivers

00:22:56 - 00:22:56 (0 sec)

No. Stop it.

Donald Trump

00:22:56 - 00:22:58 (3 sec)

Howard Stern

00:22:58 - 00:22:59 (1 sec)

Stop it.

Donald Trump

00:22:59 - 00:23:03 (4 sec)

I was waiting -- hey Howard, I was waiting for that question.

Robin Quivers

00:23:03 - 00:23:04 (1 sec)

It could be, though.

Donald Trump

00:23:04 - 00:23:06 (2 sec)

I was waiting for that question.

Howard Stern

00:23:06 - 00:23:08 (2 sec)

But maybe he doesn't want to wake up in the morning and...

Robin Quivers

00:23:08 - 00:23:09 (1 sec)

That is below the belt, Howard.

Howard Stern

00:23:09 - 00:23:11 (2 sec)

I can't believe she married a Jew.

Donald Trump

00:23:11 - 00:23:15 (4 sec)

But you don't want to wake up in the morning and hear about how he had sex with her last night, right?

Howard Stern

00:23:15 - 00:23:15 (0 sec)

I don't think so. Well, yes. Even not hearing about it. Even the thought of it.

Robin Quivers

00:23:15 - 00:23:19 (4 sec)

Howard Stern

00:23:19 - 00:23:20 (1 sec)

By the way, I would convert.

Donald Trump

00:23:20 - 00:23:22 (2 sec)

I like him right where he is with Beth.

Howard Stern

00:23:22 - 00:23:23 (1 sec)

I would convert.

Donald Trump

00:23:23 - 00:23:24 (1 sec)

You would?

Howard Stern

00:23:24 - 00:23:25 (0 sec)

I would.

Donald Trump

00:23:25 - 00:23:29 (5 sec)

Well, I tell you what. She is an outstanding -- you know she was a very, very model, top.

Howard Stern

00:23:29 - 00:23:30 (1 sec)

She's gorgeous.

Donald Trump

00:23:30 - 00:23:34 (4 sec)

And then at 18, at 18 years old, she cut it off. She went to Wharton.

Howard Stern

00:23:34 - 00:23:36 (1 sec)

The Wharton School of Finance, which is the best. Where I [Inaudible] in a row.

Donald Trump

00:23:36 - 00:23:38 (2 sec)

Howard Stern

00:23:38 - 00:23:40 (2 sec)

She's super super hot. Who is she seeing now?

Donald Trump

00:23:40 - 00:23:44 (3 sec)

Well, she went to Wharton. Well, she got all As.

Howard Stern

00:23:44 - 00:23:45 (2 sec)

Who is she doing?

Robin Quivers

00:23:45 - 00:23:51 (6 sec)

Well, the only thing that can hurt her, the only thing that will stand in her way is the wrong guy. You know that very well.

Donald Trump

00:23:51 - 00:23:52 (1 sec)

That's right.

Howard Stern

00:23:52 - 00:23:52 (0 sec)

The only thing that will [Inaudible] -- and by the way, she [Inaudible].

Donald Trump

00:23:52 - 00:23:55 (2 sec)

Howard Stern

00:23:55 - 00:23:58 (3 sec)

Howard K. Stern? Who would you rather have, Howard K. Stern or Howard A. Stern?

Donald Trump

00:23:58 - 00:24:05 (7 sec)

I would take you in a heartbeat, okay? Of those 2, reluctantly, I would go with you.

Howard Stern

00:24:05 - 00:24:06 (1 sec)

You'd have to go with me.

Donald Trump

00:24:06 - 00:24:15 (9 sec)

But you know, she's got all As. She's now in business and -- in my business with me. She's doing a great job with Don. And they're doing great, and they're brothers.

Howard Stern

00:24:15 - 00:24:18 (3 sec)

All right, Let me give you theoreticals, hypotheticals.

Donald Trump

00:24:18 - 00:24:18 (0 sec)

Go ahead.

Howard Stern

00:24:18 - 00:24:26 (7 sec)

Howard K. Stern or Jamie Foxx? Which -- who do you go with?

Donald Trump

00:24:26 - 00:24:28 (2 sec)

Well, I like Jamie Foxx a lot.

Howard Stern

00:24:28 - 00:24:30 (2 sec)

But you know, it's Jamie Foxx.

Donald Trump

00:24:30 - 00:24:33 (4 sec)

Hey, Howard. I would certainly go with Jamie Foxx.

Robin Quivers

00:24:33 - 00:24:34 (1 sec)

You would?

Donald Trump

00:24:34 - 00:24:36 (3 sec)

Oh yes, and you knew I would say that.

Howard Stern

00:24:36 - 00:24:42 (6 sec)

I mean, what -- he can say anything he wants just as long as he didn't bring Jamie Foxx home and really try to do him.

Gary Dell'Abate

00:24:42 - 00:24:47 (5 sec)

You know what, Howard, I know what you're getting at. There is zero discrimination in my blood. You know, Howard.

Donald Trump

00:24:47 - 00:24:49 (1 sec)

I know, i know. You're a good man.

Howard Stern

00:24:49 - 00:24:54 (5 sec)

Donald actually tole me that they tricked O.J. Simpson out of his country club because he didn't want his kind there. I said, "Really

Donald Trump

00:24:54 - 00:25:03 (9 sec)

O.J. Simpson actually went to my wedding. And I think he sat right next to you, did he?

Howard Stern

00:25:03 - 00:25:06 (3 sec)

He did. And I have a picture. The back of my book is a picture from him.

Donald Trump

00:25:06 - 00:25:07 (1 sec)

[Inaudible] Marla.

Howard Stern

00:25:07 - 00:25:08 (1 sec)

That's right.

Donald Trump

00:25:08 - 00:25:10 (3 sec)

And that was about 3 weeks before he killed his wife. That's right.

Howard Stern

00:25:10 - 00:25:13 (2 sec)

We know that well. He's killed her. . .

Gary Dell'Abate

00:25:13 - 00:25:13 (1 sec)

I saw O.J. At a restaurant, that was at The Ivy, and I was with a group of like 7 or 8 or bankers.

Donald Trump

00:25:13 - 00:25:19 (6 sec)

Howard Stern

00:25:19 - 00:25:20 (1 sec)

How long ago?

Donald Trump

00:25:20 - 00:25:25 (4 sec)

We're sitting -- this is, you know -- this is before the fact, before it happened.

Howard Stern

00:25:25 - 00:25:25 (0 sec)

Donald Trump

00:25:25 - 00:25:26 (1 sec)

Before's the murder.

Howard Stern

00:25:26 - 00:25:27 (1 sec)

And he was talking very nice. You know, he was a nice guy. I mean, you know, he was a nice guy. But you know, somehow, I can't get over what he did. You know, it's like, hard.

Donald Trump

00:25:27 - 00:25:35 (8 sec)

Howard Stern

00:25:35 - 00:25:35 (1 sec)

But she came up to him, Nicole, and she was at a table, and she didn't treat him very nicely. She was very, very, you know, like what are you doing? Get back to the table. And everybody sort of said, "wow

Donald Trump

00:25:35 - 00:25:49 (14 sec)

Robin Quivers

00:25:49 - 00:25:50 (1 sec)

But he -- you still don't do what he did, which he obviously did.

Donald Trump

00:25:50 - 00:25:53 (3 sec)

Howard Stern

00:25:53 - 00:25:55 (3 sec)

I mean, what did he do with that time, Donald? Did he just smile?

Robin Quivers

00:25:55 - 00:25:56 (1 sec)

You know, he was embarrassed.

Gary Dell'Abate

00:25:56 - 00:26:00 (3 sec)

And he was like, don't worry, I'm going to be killing you.

Donald Trump

00:26:00 - 00:26:01 (1 sec)

I'm going to kill her.

Howard Stern

00:26:01 - 00:26:03 (2 sec)

I will kill her very soon. You're going to get it.

Robin Quivers

00:26:03 - 00:26:21 (18 sec)

He was very embarrassed. It was very embarrassing for him. She was sitting with her mother or something, and she was quite rude, unfortunately. And he was a little bit embarrassed. And that's something I never forgot. And you know, then shortly after that, the ultimate act took place. But it was -- what a mess that is.

Howard Stern

00:26:21 - 00:26:25 (4 sec)

Yes. That's for sure. Well, it's weird. I mean, because we met him.

Donald Trump

00:26:25 - 00:26:27 (1 sec)

Oh, yes. He was a nice guy.

Howard Stern

00:26:27 - 00:26:29 (3 sec)

Nice guy, charming, except for the murder thing.

Gary Dell'Abate

00:26:29 - 00:26:32 (3 sec)

It. He was a great guy, other than a couple of murders.

Donald Trump

00:26:32 - 00:26:33 (1 sec)

Yes, that's it.

Howard Stern

00:26:33 - 00:26:34 (1 sec)

Did he ever -- do you know...

Donald Trump

00:26:34 - 00:26:43 (9 sec)

[Inaudible] if you're from, like, where I'm from, the murders sort of do it. He called me once. He wanted to know if he could play golf.

Howard Stern

00:26:43 - 00:26:44 (1 sec)

After the murder?

Donald Trump

00:26:44 - 00:26:47 (3 sec)

Yes. I said, "I'm going to take a pass."

Howard Stern

00:26:47 - 00:26:51 (4 sec)

He got on the phone with you personally? No, no. They just wanted to set up a golf match.

Donald Trump

00:26:51 - 00:26:55 (4 sec)

Somebody called for him. They wanted to know if they could -- because I play golf. He plays golf. You know.

Howard Stern

00:26:55 - 00:26:59 (3 sec)

Oh my god. Could you imagine if he did that...

Donald Trump

00:26:59 - 00:26:59 (1 sec)

And I took a pass.

Howard Stern

00:26:59 - 00:27:05 (6 sec)

Yes, that was a smart move. That was a smart move. You would have just come off looking like [Inaudible]

Donald Trump

00:27:05 - 00:27:18 (13 sec)

You know the greatest is that where they say that O.J. Wasn't physically fit enough to have killed Ron Goldman, and you know, because Ron Goldman lifted weights and stuff. And I'll tell you a story. I was on the golf course, playing with O.J. You know, again, prior, of course. Because after, I just shut him off. It was over.

Howard Stern

00:27:18 - 00:27:19 (1 sec)

Right, right.

Donald Trump

00:27:19 - 00:27:33 (14 sec)

But -- because I was one of the most obvious murderers of all time. But I was on the golf course blank, and I'm playing with a guy, a friend of mine, who was like this really good athlete and he's, you know, physically fit, he's lifting weights, one of these guys.

Howard Stern

00:27:33 - 00:27:33 (0 sec)

Is hot.

Donald Trump

00:27:33 - 00:27:49 (16 sec)

And O.J.'s in shorts. And O.J. Had these really skinny legs. He had -- you used to wonder, how could he drag 5 linebackers from Pennsylvania on his back for 10 yards. You know, because he's got these really thin legs, right? But you know, just -- he was an amazing athlete, an amazing runner, and a very powerful guy.

Howard Stern

00:27:49 - 00:27:50 (1 sec)

Yes, it was crazy.

Robin Quivers

00:27:50 - 00:27:58 (8 sec)

So even -- by the way, so a guy like that, an NFL guy like that, he could be in bad shape and old and he'd still kill a normal guy.

Donald Trump

00:27:58 - 00:27:59 (1 sec)

Absolutely.

Howard Stern

00:27:59 - 00:27:59 (0 sec)

Right, yes.

Donald Trump

00:27:59 - 00:28:01 (1 sec)

There's no -- there's not even a career.

Howard Stern

00:28:01 - 00:28:03 (3 sec)

I mean, the idea that he had arthritis was horseshit. I mean...

Robin Quivers

00:28:03 - 00:28:10 (7 sec)

Well, the whole thing. So this was this was some -- a little bit before the murder. So what happens is my friend said, "there's no way

Donald Trump

00:28:10 - 00:28:14 (4 sec)

You've got to trust me. O.J. Is sin fine shape.

Howard Stern

00:28:14 - 00:28:16 (2 sec)

Well, yes, Donald, must have been...

Robin Quivers

00:28:16 - 00:28:21 (5 sec)

So now I hear the stories about O.J. Couldn't have killed him because he wasn't strong enough, he wasn't physically fit.

Donald Trump

00:28:21 - 00:28:22 (1 sec)

It's all bullshit.

Howard Stern

00:28:22 - 00:28:24 (2 sec)

Yes. Donald must be sitting there during the trial...

Robin Quivers

00:28:24 - 00:28:29 (5 sec)

By the way, at 75 years old. O.J. Would have been able to kill him.

Howard Stern

00:28:29 - 00:28:30 (1 sec)

Of course.

Donald Trump

00:28:30 - 00:28:35 (6 sec)

Right, saying O.J. Can't walk. O.J. is claiming he can't walk.

Howard Stern

00:28:35 - 00:28:37 (2 sec)

Yes. They should have called you as a witness.

Donald Trump

00:28:37 - 00:28:49 (12 sec)

Well, no, O.J. Was one of the greatest running back of all time. And this guy was a guy that would go around you, but if necessary, he'd go through you. You know, in other words, one of the backs that had both qualities, right?

Howard Stern

00:28:49 - 00:28:53 (4 sec)

Yes. No, he was one of the greats.

Donald Trump

00:28:53 - 00:29:09 (16 sec)

And he would carry guys on his back. And everybody used to wonder, because he had very thin legs. You know, he had very thin legs. Everybody would wonder, how did those thin legs carry 4 or 5 linebackers? You know, it's pretty tough, right?

Howard Stern

00:29:09 - 00:29:10 (1 sec)

So O.J. At 75 would have no trouble, you know?

Donald Trump

00:29:10 - 00:29:14 (4 sec)

Howard Stern

00:29:14 - 00:29:15 (1 sec)

That's right.

Donald Trump

00:29:15 - 00:29:18 (3 sec)

But it's too bad it's too bad. It's too bad.

Howard Stern

00:29:18 - 00:29:19 (1 sec)

I'm glad you called in.

Robin Quivers

00:29:19 - 00:29:37 (18 sec)

Well, it's nice to talk to you. I feel very sorry for you having to live with us Howard K. Stern thing. I think about you every time. And as you say, maybe it's a good thing for your career, Howard. But we don't have to worry about you. I think your career is blessed.

Donald Trump

00:29:37 - 00:29:39 (2 sec)

I look at -- exactly.

Howard Stern

00:29:39 - 00:29:44 (5 sec)

Yes. But Howard thinks it's going to go away. I don't think it's going away.

Donald Trump

00:29:44 - 00:29:46 (2 sec)

No, I thin it's -- I think

Howard Stern

00:29:46 - 00:29:47 (1 sec)

It's great to watch.

Donald Trump

00:29:47 - 00:29:54 (7 sec)

I think [Inaudible] and you'll hear stories that he was the one that -- maybe you'll hear stories and he was the one that killed her.

Howard Stern

00:29:54 - 00:29:57 (4 sec)

I've got to tell you -- who knows? I got that. Even the mother mother thinks that he killed her.

Donald Trump

00:29:57 - 00:30:00 (2 sec)

I don't believe -- the mother had nothing to do with her.

Howard Stern

00:30:00 - 00:30:16 (16 sec)

The thing is that when I turned on Fox News, if they didn't have on Anna Nicole this weekend, I didn't want to watch any of the story. I go to CNN, if they didn't have it, I go to MSNBC. And 9 times out of 10, MSNBC had something, so I stayed with it. Anything Anna Nicole

Donald Trump

00:30:16 - 00:30:28 (13 sec)

I don't find it -- you now what, though, Howard, I don't find it that fascinating. You know, last week, before she died, Entertainment Tonight was doing -- your friend Pat, right? Entertainment Tonight was doing a lot of [Inaudible] on Anna, and I didn't find it...

Howard Stern

00:30:28 - 00:30:29 (1 sec)

Me neither.

Donald Trump

00:30:29 - 00:30:30 (1 sec)

I didn't want to watch it.

Howard Stern

00:30:30 - 00:30:31 (1 sec)

Me neither.

Donald Trump

00:30:31 - 00:30:39 (8 sec)

And I think it was the way she was talking. She was obviously drugged out. I don't think that was even alcohol. I think that was drugs, but she was horrible. And it looked like she had the lips pumped.

Howard Stern

00:30:39 - 00:30:39 (1 sec)

All of you many women listening, why do women have their lips pump. I think it's the most disgusting thing to look at these big, fat, pumped-up tires.

Donald Trump

00:30:39 - 00:30:48 (8 sec)

Howard Stern

00:30:48 - 00:30:51 (3 sec)

By dying, she made herself interesting again, didn't she?

Donald Trump

00:30:51 - 00:30:52 (1 sec)

Well, I don't know.

Howard Stern

00:30:52 - 00:30:53 (1 sec)

It was the best career move ever.

Robin Quivers

00:30:53 - 00:31:02 (9 sec)

But even even now, other than the basics, I don't find it -- I don't find it interesting like other stories for some reason. But maybe I must be in a minority because that's all they have.

Howard Stern

00:31:02 - 00:31:04 (2 sec)

I never did, but now, I find it interesting.

Donald Trump

00:31:04 - 00:31:08 (4 sec)

Yes, I wasn't watching the stories before the death, but now I'm riving it.

Howard Stern

00:31:08 - 00:31:09 (1 sec)

Way in.

Donald Trump

00:31:09 - 00:31:16 (7 sec)

I can't believe how much publicity she was getting before. I mean, over what? You know, you're trying to find out what. Why is she getting all this publicity?

Howard Stern

00:31:16 - 00:31:16 (1 sec)

And you couldn't figure it out.

Donald Trump

00:31:16 - 00:31:28 (12 sec)

But you know, one thing I've learned about your business, Howard, it's all about the ratings. If my feud with that slob, or if Miss USA or -- because that Miss USA became a huge story.

Howard Stern

00:31:28 - 00:31:29 (0 sec)

The one thing we know, if people aren't watching...

Donald Trump

00:31:29 - 00:31:30 (1 sec)

Howard Stern

00:31:30 - 00:31:32 (2 sec)

I'm more interested in her now.

Donald Trump

00:31:32 - 00:31:34 (2 sec)

Well, by the way, she is beaut -- I should [ Inaudible]

Howard Stern

00:31:34 - 00:31:35 (2 sec)

She's a hot piece of ass. Get her in here.

Donald Trump

00:31:35 - 00:31:39 (4 sec)

You know, the last time I put one of the people on your show, it was Miss Russia.

Howard Stern

00:31:39 - 00:31:41 (1 sec)

I know, but that was the end.

Donald Trump

00:31:41 - 00:31:42 (1 sec)

And I had to fire her.

Howard Stern

00:31:42 - 00:31:49 (7 sec)

Yes, get that one on here. I want to talk to her because she's -- you know what? I feel bad for your Miss USA because this girl was having so much fun.

Robin Quivers

00:31:49 - 00:31:51 (2 sec)

Oh, but she is one beautiful -- I tell you what, she is so beautiful...

Howard Stern

00:31:51 - 00:31:55 (4 sec)

I know, but she's got to be miserable now. She's got to be miserable now. She can't party.

Donald Trump

00:31:55 - 00:31:59 (4 sec)

Well, we said, she could have certainly been Miss Howard Stern. We would never have stopped her fun.

Howard Stern

00:31:59 - 00:32:03 (4 sec)

No. If it was me. I would never even -- I'd go, "go ahead and do whatever you have to do

Donald Trump

00:32:03 - 00:32:06 (3 sec)

That's right. If it was howard K. Stern, he'd bring her out of it.

Robin Quivers

00:32:06 - 00:32:09 (3 sec)

But you were right. I mean, you've got a franchiser.

Howard Stern

00:32:09 - 00:32:13 (3 sec)

You wouldn't do anything to her, by the way, Robin, but just bring her out right.

Donald Trump

00:32:13 - 00:32:13 (1 sec)

Right. That's true.

Robin Quivers

00:32:13 - 00:32:15 (2 sec)

You know, that Miss USA...

Howard Stern

00:32:15 - 00:32:19 (4 sec)

I bet, I wouldn't be surprised if Howard K. Stern never got there with her.

Donald Trump

00:32:19 - 00:32:20 (1 sec)

Oh, I don't think it at all.

Howard Stern

00:32:20 - 00:32:22 (2 sec)

I agree. I don't think he ever banged her.

Robin Quivers

00:32:22 - 00:32:32 (10 sec)

I would be -- unless she was totally drugged out, I would be surprised if he ever even got there, let alone the kid. I mean, the kid is nonsense, right? But I would be surprised if he ever got there.

Donald Trump

00:32:32 - 00:32:37 (4 sec)

Yes, I agree. Hey listen, I'm going to move on. But listen, thank you for calling. Good to talk to you.

Howard Stern

00:32:37 - 00:32:38 (1 sec)

Good to talk to you.

Donald Trump

00:32:38 - 00:32:40 (2 sec)

It's great to talk to you both. I hope you're both happy.

Howard Stern

00:32:40 - 00:32:41 (2 sec)

And do you think -- what about The Apprentice.

Donald Trump

00:32:41 - 00:32:47 (5 sec)

The Apprentice is doing great. It's on -- it was on last night. It's on Sunday nights at 9:00, and it's been doing really well.

Howard Stern

00:32:47 - 00:32:49 (2 sec)

Sunday nights, 9 o'clock, The Apprentice, everybody,

Donald Trump

00:32:49 - 00:32:49 (0 sec)