The microphone is on here. Yeah. Your mic is actually attached to your headphones. It's very professional now. How are you Donald. I'm fine. This is my daughter Ivanka. Hi, Ivanka. This is my son, Don. And hey we will put you some headphones on you guys so that we can hear you. Hi Ivanka, nice to meet you. How are you? Nice to meet you. I'm very good to see you. And Donald is here as well. So you're all three are on the show this year. Yes. Is there a lot of pressure. Apprentice four or five is it. This is number five going on tonight. Is there a lot of pressure to come in big with this. Everybody always looks at you and expect you to be number one in all that. I don't know you know the finale as you see I just gave you the ratings was number two. And that was last month number two for the week in television. Right. The show's been number one a lot of the time. Yeah it's always tough. You know it's like your show you get if you drop one percent. They have a headline, Howard Stern writes down on the stand, you know and then you read it. And if you really read it seriously, holy Christmas is new to him. It's it's tough competition a lot of competitors. But don't you think as a result of this fight with Martha that there is even more scrutiny so it's like if you take a slip now everybody will be ready to pounce. Well I think so and a lot of people thought that I started the fight with Martha because of you know gets a little hoopla going on and you know... I think that's brilliant. You do. You wouldn't do a thing like that. I mean really when I was the first one to go on the air and say this fight will start up the new season. Right. I mean it's unfortunate because Martha Stewart was your friend. Right. You don't mind sacrificing a friend for ratings. Well It's not a question. I don't sacrifice I mean I like Martha, I've always liked Martha. I still like Martha but the fact is that she was blaming myself and Mark Burnett for her failure at ratings and you know her show did not do well. The show didn't have it it didn't have the temperament, it didn't have the mood, it didn't have anything. She wasn't doing a good job at it. And every time I read an article she was blaming me. And my show is the number one show on television and she was saying I'm going to go fire Donald. Now... Can I say something to you. Yes. You're like me. I get crazy about everything. I'm telling you I'm nuts. I get crazy about it everyday. I sat down and I started to analyze what Martha Stewart said. And I was saying this to Robin in a way she's saying, there was too much apprentice on the air which is something you were saying as well. And she said this guy Burnett came to me and said Donald doesn't want to do this forever. They said to me the plan is to fire Donald Trump in a cute way and I will take over. That was my goal. That was my understanding. And when that didn't happen both of us are stuck on the air, is too much Apprentice on the air. It should have been one Apprentice moving into the other apprentice. That was our understanding and I'm thinking... Is that a bad thing to say what she said. She didn't really say anything bad about Donald. I don't think she really criticized. You see I viewed it as negative, but I know exactly what to say. I would too. I viewed it as negative because I don't want to be fired when I have the number one show on television, Number one. Number two, do you fire Jennifer Aniston three years ago when Friends is blazing. Because you want to fire and put somebody else it doesn't make sense. I mean the concept doesn't make sense. What did Burnett did say to her, listen I don't think Donald going to stay with this forever. This guy got a major things going on in his life. It's going to take long forever. You would like TV. That's what they were saying and maybe He... You've got a lot of things going on. Maybe he won't want to continue this. I viewed it as negative. And I'll tell you something. I viewed it numerous times because this wasn't the only said this was a news week story but I've heard it before. I am the same way. I am telling you I was at war with who I was at war and they came and we played the clip I think I knew who it was, Jack Black. I listened to a piece of tape where he went on another radio show and criticized me. I heard the tape. I blew my stack, I said that Jack Black and I went into a thing about him for a month. Jack Black comes into my studio. I don't know what he did wrong. I want to apologize. I don't think I said anything right. I want to play the clip to your face. I played on the clip and I'm listening to it I got. I must be insane The guy is not saying a word. I must be mentally ill. I get crazy. Well I think that..you know it's one thing for Donald to say you know what. My friend Martha I defended her. I don't understand what she's saying. But you go into attack mode. All they have to do is say Donald Trump and you know you are on attack mode. You're like me. I think people are attacking me. And you slay people. You don't just not calm in a little bit. You don''t just hit him punch you once, you just destroy, and she felt destroyed by you. Well you know I've never really thought of that but Howard is that way as a long time, this is Howard. I mean and a friend of Howard, Howard is that way. When I called up innocently A. J. Benza he didn't say anything so bad. I went startled crazy... You wouldn't actually taking his girlfriend. I Let me ask you..I know you took his girlfriend and you're okay with that. We're on the air. Know what She's a wonderful person too. I'll tell you what. And I'm very proud of it. But I didn't really like he didn't say anything that bad. All of a sudden the thing I'm most proud about, 11 Howard once said that that was in the top five in the history of television. I was. I love arguing. I don't think you have that tape anymore do you. I don't. You're not allowed to play that No. In fact that's the only thing wrong with this show is that you can no longer play the A. J. Benza tape. Did you and Martha really have a friendship or was it just one of those things you'd see each other casually. It was more casual but we had a friendship. We like with each other and you have to understand the one thing and you knew it because I came on your show tonight. I came on. I had nothing to do with the show. I own the show with Mark Burnett. Martha just got paid a fee. I have nothing to do with it so... Did anything... You might have been mad at Mark Burnett because he went and signed Martha Stewart where he shouldn't have maybe done that by the way. I know NBC really liked it. Look the Apprentice is doing tremendous. Numbers continues but He's just doing tremendous number. So NBC rightfully probably said let's do a second version. Martha is getting a lot of publicity unfortunately because of her problems. That's a second version of the Apprentice And will get a cut of the action. And I didn't like the idea. But you know I made a lot of money with that show. I made a lot of money with that show. Who doesn't want that to be. So it wasn't so bad. So it wasn't so bad. But I think in time you will see. I'm just guessing. That Martha Stewart did not say anything that bad about you. Okay. I mean it but... But you mean it like ninety five or something. You know what I'll forget as soon as you forget all of your little disputes. I can't I can't I cannot forget my disputed... Split personality sickness. For example Andrew Dice Clay, Andrew Dice Clay is coming on the show. I've had a very... For years now I haven't spoke with him. We were friendly is somewhat and helped him buy a house out on Long Island. I went through with a broker with him. I mean he got something of a friendship and he came in and he did a interview with me and then I read and he said something like Howard was in on his game the interview wasn't that good. That's all I needed to hear. He came and he wasn't prepared he wasn't doing a good job on the show. And he's blaming me. I mean I can only ask so many questions the guy's got to put out a little bit and that was it. Bam bam bam. I mean it's been out of control so that's a legitimate . Wait a minute. That he actually did something. I have seen you forgive people and mend fences. I have. I don't know that Donald does that. Do you ever forgive anyone have you ever been in a feud. The answer is rarely, rarely. I''ll tell you Dan is saying something to me. He didn't say nothing it doesn't happen. Go ahead say it Duncan as you said that... He basically he's too nice to people he doesn't know that well. That people who he starts to dislike whether with merit or not he just takes it away too far. OK. Had you ever been in therapy for this you do have anger issues. No I don't. I haven't because I'm too busy to be at therapy. That's a good news. I'm so busy that I don't have time. Isn't it hard though. I'm going to ask the kids this question and this is something you got to come clean with. Isn't it hard to be Donald Trump's kid because you know if you screw up with him he will not be forgiving. Definitely he wouldn't treat us differently than anyone else. That's why... So we really understand that. So in other words if you don't buy into Donald Trump's world even as his children. You're out. You're out. So it doesn't allow you to rebel. It doesn't. You've never had the chance to say hey dad screw you you're wrong. Mom gets it all. Am I right or am I wrong? There's definitely truth in what you're saying. I would think it would be very hard to be Donald Trump's kid. There are some advantages as well. Understood. I understand. O understand. I'm not saying he's a bad dad or anything like that. I'm saying I just know with his personality. It's part of what's great about him now because you understand things he's so blunt. There's no sort of ambiguity about how he feels about things. If you just go to him and you know you can say how do you feel about this and get an honest answer and there's sort of no It's black or white. All right. And now if you went up to your father and you said you know what Dad, you're an F and A-hole, I think we should ... We would never say that. Hold on a second. Let's say you screwed up you got angry with him. You did that. Would your father be able to come over to you and hug you after that and say I'm proud of you for speaking up. I think he definitely likes it when we speak out and we don't always agree with him and we don't have to always agree with him. Right. You know we now work for him if we always agreed with him that would be a problem we have to bring something to the table in our own viewpoint. But that being said, there's a way in which you can disagree with somebody being respectful and not insulting. And you've got to also always keep in mind your father is a very wealthy man. It's a nice security blanket. If you go outside the line, He could cut you off because he is that kind of guy. Do you hold that over there. Donna how many times have i said today? All the time. Really. Mr. Trump All the time. I will call in those lawyers I will cut them out of that real so fast. Those kids, they will have nothing. Do you get that smile but he's not okay. .That's so funny. The twinkle in his eye. Have you guys, have you guys ever said to your Dad, Listen. How much is in the will and what am I going to get when I get out of this whole thing with you know if you go into the great beyond what you have you ever discussed it. Not really. You want to discuss it now you want me to broke this whole thing. I would Howard... I think Harry will do a better job than we will so maybe... Isn't that equal Donald? Well it's a funny thing about wills. Wills are very hard to talk to with parents or whatever. You know you love somebody and the kids...you know honestly the kids, they're very good business field. They went to work, they got all A's. They were great students, great everything. Right. The fact is, they have... And I've often thought to myself, you know we talk about deals and everything else, the big deal is how much am I going to leave them. Right. Right. The big deal is how much taxes is going to be paid. How much is how much. Right. They find it hard to bring that up and yet we'll talk about much smaller things about business and very intently. And the reason they don't is out of respect in all fairness and you would have that with your father let's say are you would...you know it just ... For sure. My father is not leaving me anything. I know that. If you do... I'm not leaving you of something. But the fact is when you have a paren't it's it's a terrible to discuss death. and you're basically saying when you die what you going to call it, so my kids are very nice and the fact that they've never brought it up and I'm sure they think about it all the time. They've never brought it up. Aren't you annoyed by this new baby coming on the scene. I mean... I think that's another one. That's another cost in theory... Can we sort of... Well is it not Well let's be honest. Can he slow down. Why didn't we start with his children. I think it would be much more difficult if we were sort of around 13, 14 and I think in a lot of ways it was more difficult when Tiffany came around. Because we were still sort of in the nest. Now we've grown up, we're working for fairness and it's sort of a separate thing. Yeah its the... It's the age gap is such that... We're going to cut Tiffany out. But the Tiffany will now be going through it, right. [Inaudible] Yeah. Tiffany doesn't deserve equal cut. I'm sorry I don't see her on the show. I don't see her on the Apprentice. She is not working. What about Donald. Is it fair in a world to say certain children get more and certain children get less. What is your philosophy. I think it is fair but I think what happens is Ivanka and Don and soon Eric will be working with me and so I'll be doing things for them because they're working. I mean they'll be working on a deal so they get a piece deal, don't do this, don't do that. So they have a certain advantage anyway. It's it depends on...I love all the kids you have to love them and ideally love them the same I think you love your kids. Yes. There could be... I know occasions where kids are really bad kids. I mean I know parents who have a really, really bad kids and I don't love the kids. I mean I know parents that won't ever talk to the kids. They truly, they're bad kids and they know it. I have good kids they're all good kids. Tiffany is a great kid also. I see. We can put Tiffany on the show also on the Apprentice show next season let's say? Will she ever [Inaudible] for you? She's already 12 years old. She's only 12. I think she'd be terrific on that. I think I know how it works is that he really rewards hard work. So the fact that Don and I are working fine, I mean we really are sort of busting our ass everyday working extremely long hours flying all over the world and country and we're loving it but we're working hard. And he realizes that and you know therefore ... What about the rumor that you two guys are calling the new baby parasite. This have been going around... I think you just started a new rumor. I didn't know where did you get that. Melania that is not accurate. That's what we're hearing. Donald is upset about it. It's a big round it. So has it been discussed of it all? So you, so you, you guys are now working for your father. I am very impressed that you went to Wharton School of Business, do you get... Because that's one of the hardest schools to get into. Oh it is one of the best. It is probably the best. Do people think that your dad bought...You know, did you put a wing on Wharton. Did you... No actually. They haven't done... The fact is they...it's a great school. To me it's I think it's the best school in the world probably for business . To get in you have to be very, very smart. You have to have very very high average. You have to have great marks and if you don't you don't get it. I don't care who your father is. Ivanka what kind of SATs do you have to have to get in. I don't know very high. I think it's not just about sort of one component. There you have to have a grade, you have to have the SATs, you have to have the extra extra curricular. In the interviews, you have to be well. So you have to be smart. What kind of SATs do you get? We all did very well. Over 15 or 16? What is it over 1500 right? Way over. No kidding. I actually, I have the tendency to think, that I think SATs mean nothing. Yes. They got 800 time math. Did you guys get 800 in math in class. I think close. I produce smart people. I'm nowhere near it. I think that Tiffany took that [Inaudible] Tiffany is a very good student. You're thinking full credit. You know what Tiffany is a very good student. He's thinking full credit for all good thing. All the good things I take credit. The good thing is that in my world as we know those people we grew up with people whose parents did donate the wings to warrant and they didn't get in. So it's not you know he couldn't buy our way and even if he wanted it Okay I want to ask you a [Inaudible] question, work or school in business. Yes. What is 17 times six. What is he a human calculator. See that is not a practical... 96? Wrong. 1 94 Wrong 11... That is not a practical application though. Ivanka 17 times six... It's 11 12. It's 1, 12 Wrong What is 17 times six? 17 times six anybody knows. 92 102 [Inaudible] 112. It is 112? 112 What gets you, you're genius. The kids didn't know. That's why your dead. That's why I'm dead. All right i have a question because you ... [Inaudible]. The second thing I want to say is that unless for mankind to get only six times 20 minutes two times six times a hundred Or better yet just bring out a calculator. [Inaudible] It's 102. Guys you're wrong. [Inaudible] I was right, hire me. Give me a job. I want to go back this Martha Stewart thing for just a moment because she, you know the things that she said that hurt her the most. Let's see her get into Wharton. First of all, she did say that Donald had this [Inaudible] with a silver spoon in his mouth and he was not a self-made man. She was really, she started punching bag pretty hard. When my father was a builder in Brooklyn and Queens and I and he was successful and he was a great guy. I learned a lot about business from my father and that's true. I mean in that sense absolutely. But you took the business and you made it into a multi-billion dollar business. The biggest developer in New York I have a lot of fun doing it. I'm doing very well and you know what can you do right. But she also said she took great offense at your attacks on her daughter. All right. Well look I mean her attacks on her daughter. Her daughter and her supposedly didn't speak for years. The daughter didn't have any chemistry on the show. Her daughter and Martha were fighting over the same man. I mean give me a break. And what about that I heard a rumor about that. Supposedly Martha stole the daughter's boyfriend. Now I heard that's true. Sam whatever his name [Inaudible] Did you hear that too Gary. You know it's funny when when That might not be true. I've got to ask the daughter about that because she works here in the morning. That's the guy that got her into trouble right When Alexis was on our show that was actually in the note which we never got today. Let's get Alexis. Where is she? Come on. I never saw that in a note. You know I mean that's a little unusual for the mother to see another boyfriend. I don't know if it's true is it true Gary? There' s a rumor that we were going to sort it's a [Inaudible]. I'll tell you what they both wish they never met the guy. Your son should have sex with Martha and Alexis and get him all back. This all up. Look I wish mother the best. I hope she does well I really do. I mean I just don't want to be blamed . [Inaudible] Yes i do. I don''t want to be blamed for the failure of her show. She didn't get a job because it didn't have what it takes. Watch tonight, you'll see what it takes. Now the show your new show Apprentice 5. Right. Got great reviews in the paper today. They say you've revitalized it by bringing your kids in. Well and for other reasons. And they say the new cast is more attractive and sort of more exciting. What was the focus this time when you were picking the new [Inaudible] Just great, smart, amazing people. I mean we just have amazing and really smart people and it's a terrific cast. We have a great cast and Bill Carter in The New York Times today wrote a fantastic story on The Apprentice. That's great. And he said how the finale which was a month ago was the number two show on televisio. So Bill Carter is a great writer for The New York Times, he wrote a great story today. So you're on tonight at 9:00 Tonight at 9:00 And you don't go up against American Idol or you do. That's good. Next Tuesday. You don't want to go up against that. That drives me crazy because it dilutes the oh no that's a monster but that's on Tuesday and Wednesday. So Ivanka obviously you are a very attractive one. Thank you, Howard. There's no question about it. Your father says you're one of the most attractive women on the planet. I don't disagree. Thank you. What's going on. You're quite the package you're wealthy. You're bright, graduated Wharton. Top of your class. Yes? Yes. Really. What number? Cum Laude. Well I don't know Summa Cum Laude actually and I don't know why we didn't get a number breakdown in all that. I guess. Who's single Howard. Dean already had not seen each other for a month and a half. I want to introduce you to the bachelor party. What would you really single as well. That would be a nightmare. I would do a terrible terrible and I would be I couldn't be worse than it already was this is a tough tough guy. I can't think of anyone worse out of respect for that. All I could think of was I had lunch at Marlo. I visited the ground. It is a very WASPy it is a beautiful place. I knew I didn't belong there. Not with my nose in my back. I knew I was right. I had the good sense to leave with. Nobody wanted to see. If an Artie Lange was to marry I. It's safe to say that she would not even be welcome at Mar-a-Lago right. Am I right that that's true. She would probably not be my daughter. She would never be at Mar-a-Lago. Right. I get that. Imagine the movie would be like Arthur really because it would be giving up all her worldly possessions to marry the great movie by the way. Unbelievable what a movie it just never would happen. I mean that's my point about being Donald Trump's daughter even though there's a lot of good stuff but a lot of that there can with regard to the dating thing and to be very careful. But I think generally when you grow up and you have a lot of money and you sort of have the houses we have in the plans you're a little bit more skeptical general of people's intentions. So you either have to have a great ability to see through people and really focus and see who's sincere and who's not. If you don't have that ability you're just screwed in life again. For the record I have a lot of family relationships but in business and everything I read for Donald I honestly I mean I have a lot going out with a i already. I of roasting Donald when I he said that my mother said one day I could show my grandkids that I actually met the legendary Donald Trump and the guy and the did you right. You will impress a photograph. So let me understand. You know I like to bring up something here because Donald introduced Donny to his wife is he going to find a mate for Ivanka. I think right now I'm focused on working working hard for him and the guys that are doing this. Bingo. Yeah. One of my best friends. And Donald did not like him. No. He's a nice guy. I think he did like him did not like him. I thought he was a very nice guy. You're being diplomatic I think. I thought he was I mean I didn't know him. I really didn't know. I grew up with thing. I've known him for years you know 10 years something I guess we dated for three and a half years you know I'm going to find Bingo a waffling like an alcoholic or something like that. That is Fingaz West. So bingo would fit in at Mar-a-Lago. Yes. He had the right pedigree I suppose. Yes. I mean he has which parents I would assume with a name like that you better take. His actual name is James did you. Did you break up with bingo because you know your father didn't like him. No. Nothing to do with it. No you can't you can't operate like that. I mean there's something about an attraction between you and another person I can't really be dictated by another. So you know I'm young I'm 24 we have been together for a long time and you know nothing terrible happened nothing salacious just you. I'm sorry. I hope you did not give it. Good. You're still a virgin I assume of course like Donald do you ever discuss sex with your daughter. No you do not. No. You've never had a feeling we're not going anywhere. No no. I mean we can make this up. Donald seriously do you know about sexual predators and things like that. I mean why. Would say. That's an uncomfortable topic for you as a father. Yeah I think so. I mean the kids probably know more about it than I do anyway. When you get right down to it but you know they've been good kids they've been always hard working. They've gotten tremendous marks in schools and no matter where they went and you know I mean I'm very proud of another and business with me Don has been in longer. He's doing a fantastic job Ivanka just came in recently. What does a monkey do when the company. Working with done basically it was an all encompassing developmental role that projects don't we have no money. What do you got going on what's what we've got 2.7 million square for building in Chicago it's going to be the largest building built in North America since the Sears Tower. We have a 13 We have two products in Fort Lauderdale just recently signed a huge deal in Dubai by building around 17 buildings. You do that on your own or your father figures a lot. We know you got them all with the idea. He's know he's always you know at the end of the day he has the final say on absolutely everything. Well one of the great advantages and working for him also and as children is he really allows us the flexibility to try things and see for us things at us. And maybe you know in terms of our experience level would be you know sort of a challenge and he sits there and he'll help us and monitor us and you know got us in the right direction at the same time live learning. That's pretty cool. I wish my dad would have done that. OK. And so you're not you're not so friendly with your mother anymore I hope. I don't know I don't want you see her when I was part of her contract. No reason to be friendly with her I don't see why you got that. What do you need her for. I mean I mean she's fine to me but I've been and I think she's great as well and they both did a really good job with us you know bringing us up and stuff so you know we owe a lot to her as well. Do you see that as disloyalty don't you think you probably fine. Let me ask a question. And this is going to matter a lot. And I know Donald and I respect the man and I've always loved him. You parents are on a boat that begins to sink. 1 There's room to save one paren't what do you save. 2 You go for do I you me say Well I think in that scenario I probably just drown myself and I don't feel comfortable making sure you've got to make it. You might as well say what you going to let everybody down today can I come home with mom tomorrow and say Let me give you the. Martha Stewart shot a cannon into the boat. Apparently she had it in for the whole year. 3 What are you willing to say your father Martha did it. Then I have to say him so he can strike back. Right. You know because it's a Trump thing we have to end up winning. You know that's obvious. What does he say mom because when Dad dies that's all the money that's actually you know getting it all. And I know smart. I think he is. He will control those assets from the grave even after he died five years ago. And also I think you know me my mother would like to be able to swim and my father and I could be a scary Howard and have one minute laugh with him. I'm not kidding. Where you go off to. Listen. OK so you just did today with your friend Katie Couric and we're now going over to Fox on Fox. 4 How can I ask one question. I've got to ask a question. Donald Jr got married I've always wondered what kind of a wedding gift did you get from her dad. 3 I guess the wedding wedding wedding the wedding you know. That was a life. Yeah. What are you going to do. It's been great. We just have so much fun together and really really change. It's actually surprising that nothing has been incredible. Someone told me actually your father is a very modest man that for your wedding gift you've got Florida. 3 The state didn't want me to tell me there's no one on the horizon for you today. There are few people on the horizon that know one specific thing. You hang out with Paris Hilton all those kind of kids. No not particularly. You're too bright for that. She was in that movie with the Johnson kids movie with the rich kids. That was pretty interesting because you saw a lot of your friends in there right. She is the silly when they didn't look like almost all the kids came up pretty bad. I was you know and I am good friends with a few of the people in that movie. And it's sad the way sort of a few of them are behaving themselves. Would you ever date a black guy. That will not go over at Mar-a-Lago. Yes she know that I would have you know probably you would have no problem. No problem. I would love that. I know I would have that problem Gary. Black guy. YNot like they'll talk darker than flavor flavor flavor. No no I'm saying And you have a couple of prospects and I'm sure I would have no problem with that. No problem with that. I'm not I'm just having fun. I was three and a half year relationship. Now I'm not really focused on dumb guys. I'm hanging out with my girlfriends. Just you know having a good time. You decided she should get married you get married some time prior to 28 or 30 and really probably take place at the new ballroom at Mar-a-Lago. That is that the answer really. That's what you want for her. I think it would be nice probably sometime prior to 30 would be nice. You know if you meet the right guy if she doesn't meet the right guy she doesn't have to get married ever forget it. How many dates before you would make love to a guy. Let me ask you a question that… You already established that I was a virgin Howard? Well, what about Bingo? Seriously. Did you wait a long time with Bingo? That's something I'm not going to talk about here. Why, because your Dad's here? Amongst other reasons and because of the fact that we're… He doesn't care, he wants to know. Millions of people are listening. Actually, I don't want to know to be honest. I don't want to hear it. He's actually inching out of the room. Yeah, his skin is crawling from my question. First of all I want to thank all three of you and wish you the best of luck with Apprentice 5. Yes. Which is an amazing accomplishment when you think about whoever thought Donald Trump would be one of the biggest television stars. And here you've done it again. So congratulations to the kids. It's great you really are nice kids. You really are. Donald Trump on the season premiere of The Apprentice tonight at 9:00 on NBC. Check out Donald's travel Web site. Yeah, and that's another thing that a new business since last we saw the travel site where you can book your travel. You know it's no trump that old trump dog It's gotrump.com. And you get the best airlines and air fares the lowest prices. Hotel rooms and vacations. And it's really great. Gotrump.com. It's great One last question I've been would you ever go out with another woman? No. Never would kiss a girl? No. Interesting. Hey now. It's just not her deal. You know what? Not her deal. I don't believe it. Go out with me, I'll corrupt you. I have no doubt about that. You really want to give your father a heart attack. Don't worry Donald, you're safe I'll stay away. I'm all spoken for. And how's Melania doing? She's great. She's great. OK. All right listen... now what about this thing. Port security real quick. Dubai. Talk about that. Well you know I'm partners with Dubai. I do a lot of business we're going to do 28 buildings in Dubai. So I know the people very well they're really fine people. But I'm sorry I'm so conflicted out of this discussion because I'm partners with everybody but you probably don't like the idea though, right? I'm concerned about it because I do feel that our security is everything that Dubai has had a history of financing al Qaeda has had ties over there. And you're talking about even though the Coast Guard does and the United States government is in charge of port security, the companies that run these ports are in charge of enacting a law. So I don't know there's a little conflict of interest. It's a tough one. Anyway I'm really looking for the show I'm watching this season. Good. Because I want to see the kids that like you and I wish you the best of luck. Everybody tune into The Apprentice Season 5 tonight at 9 o'clock on NBC. [Commercial Break]