Speaking of a guy who has a building, Donald Trump is on the phone. He's promoting the Shannon Briggs fight. Oh, really? Well, they're playing at the top of the Trump Taj Mahal. I didn't know Shannon had another fight. Yeah, I like Shannon. I guess Donald's on the phone. Did Shannon loses last fight? Yes. He's a good guy. He fought Lennox Lewis, remember? Yeah. That's a tough one. Hey, Donald. Hey, Howard. How are you? See what I do, I promote fights, how about you? Hey, you're into everything. Promoting. Constantly promoting. Donald Trump has the best luck. Let me ask you a question. You know that story I read yesterday? What was it? The Miss Universe, and I forget who was it, the candidate -- Stephanie Seymour? Yes. Stephanie Seymour in a see-through dress. Donald probably liked that. I thought it was fantastic, CBS wasn't enamored, you know it's a prime time. Well, let me explain to people,Stephanie Seymour, the model, was one of the judges at the Miss Universe contest except she wore see-through outfit, so CBS freaked out cause they got to put it on TV. Right. And it was obvious she had no underwear on. It was really very see-through, she's great and she's fantastic, but she -- You had sex with her, right? She was not wearing anything. Why not just, you know, just walk off. Yeah. Why not just come in naked. Well we could put bars across here. You -- you've had sex with Stephanie Seymour, what's that like? No, I haven't. I don't believe that for a minute. But she's terrific, I tell you, she was a great judge. See, as soon as he says she's terrific, I know he banged her. You're saying he had sex with her? Yeah, of course. That's the code, huh. He has great sex. You know Marla Maples was great and everything but I knew Donald would get divorced because too many women throwing themselves at him. She was really a good -- a good person, I -- You know, with all fairness, we had a great time. Donald, try to repay her for [Inaudible] No, I'm trying to be nice, Robin. I'm telling the truth now. You thought it was wonderful for her to stick by you on a tough time, and you are trying to reward her. That's true, she did stick by me. You know on the early '90s I did have a tough time, and it wasn't the greatest time of my life, and that she was there so, you know. So, hey, you did figure you'd married and paid her a couple of bucks. But wait a minute, Donald how can you only give your wife a million dollars. Why not? Well, I don't want to be like other people to give too much. You know what, she's a young girl and you want to keep her motivated in life. I wanted to do something. Right, you don't want her to get lazy and fat, you want her to, you know, listen, a million is nice, any more than that. And then she would -- Will get used to a lot more. But Robin you don't think that was generous? Seriously, not a million, it's other things. Well, you know you have to make sure a little Tiffany has a roof over her head. She's going to be fine, for a million she's gonna be just fine. She'll be beautifully taken care of. Got to be. Do you have to visit the kid and everything? I have all the rights and everything else, all visitation. So, do you do visit or you don't? I get along great with Marla. He loves his children I'm actually surprising to most people that I'm really a good father. I believe it. Great kids and everything. I wish you were my father. I remember in the '90s Donald was down to like his four and a half billion. That's when he has [Inaudible] of about, you know, $100 million a year. Let me ask you a question about money. Let me ask you a question about money. So, when you -- you know when you when you are hurting, right in the 90s? Cause the real estate market fell apart and everything. I mean, you were really, you know, I was -- I was in deep trouble. Right. Are you now back to the point where you're richer than you ever were, or are you worth than now who owns our company. Well, what happened is, you know, in the '80s I was doing great in the early '90s the world was really collapsing. When you say you were doing great in the '80s, were you worth, what, a billion? He was on the list. I was on the list and I was very high on the list and now I'm much higher on the list, so it worked out well. How do you worth now, are you were at $2 billion? Well, I guess they say much more than that. I have no idea what I'm worth. I don't believe that. I don't believe who? That I don't believe that you don't know what you're worth. It's like taking your temperature, you do it every half hour. It's depending. You know this building, what's Trump Tower with buildings you never really know. You know somebody comes along now and this market than they more than a twist, and other markets up at less. He's got a beautiful building, Donald. International Trump -- They're like selling these apartments that like $10 million. But don't forget though, he doesn't get the money for that. I was just reading the paper that I our boss bought an apartment in your building for $11 million bucks. Now, but he bought it from a guy who bought it from you for $6 million. That's correct. I sold it, I sold the apartment a couple of years ago to somebody else and, you know, the building is just a winner and it's got up unbelievably in value, but I sold that apartment two years ago to somebody else for substantially less. But I'm talking about this -- I don't know if I feel stupid. I mean at the time that's what the market will bear. At the time I thought I got a good price, I thought I was a genius, you know. Even that apartment you were like, tagging for yourself at one of your new buildings. Right. The price tag was like $10 million. Yeah. I sold that for a lot out of money. I got $13 million. And you know that's been a great building, that's Trump International Hotel. It's a beautiful building. Oh, gorgeous, absolutely gorgeous. And it has been a tremendous success, you know, it has been great. And you know, to have Mel there's really an honor because he's incredible. He's also, as you know CBS -- CBS took the space and the General Motors building which I own. Wow. And they're going to be doing an incredible studio there. I guess they're going to start off with The Morning Show and maybe it evolves into much more than even that. Yeah, but I can't get a new studio. You can have a piece in the General Motors building. They won't let me do it. Come on, we'll talk to Mel. Like we're in prison here. Yeah, you talk to him, he won't talk to me. I think we should talk to Mel about that, we have to have you in a good location. So, now you're worth, let's say, you could even be more than $2 billion. Yeah, I think much more. I'm worth now much more than that. Where do you live now? Do you live in one of your buildings? Who knows what I'm worth, Howard? I live in one of my buildings. I live in Trump Tower. You do? How many square feet do you have in there? Too many. Too many square feet. I sit here all by myself with this huge apartment and I said, what am I doing? And how often do you like, have chicks up there? Like you have one steady chick right now? You wouldn't wanna know. All right. Let me understand your life. Do you have one steady girlfriend? Well lately I have had one girlfriend. And which model is this? Melania Knauss. It was hard to believe you guess she was a model. I know you love beautiful women. I love women. I love beautiful women. Right. Right. And this Claudia Knauss -- Melania. Whatever. Melania Knauss. From Austria. What do you call Meladia? Melania. From Austria We can't pronounce these names, Donald. I know. You get a normal -- And what happen, does she live with you or does she -- Well, not at this point, to be honest. You're not gonna live with anybody. You know, I'm just finishing off with the Marla thing, in all fairness, so not at this point, but a little bit soon. But she's terrific. He has so many building, Howard. He puts up another building. You have to give this broad a building? No, I don't. You know they -- they do very well. I like somebody that can go out and really do well. I have a friend, he's got more problems than anybody I've ever seen for women. I mean the guy went half of my units. I think he's my largest customer, he went half of my units bringing a different woman in each unit. Most convenient [Inaudible]. That's beautiful. Every time he sees me, says, I'm your biggest customer I have 18 of your apartments. One of those crazy deals. Wow. That's lucky. Man, that's some kind of life. So, you are with one model now. How long has this been going on? I've been with her about eight months. Oh, long time. I have to take a look at her. How old is she? She's on the cover of Ocean Drive, I guess last month. How old is she? She's 28. Twenty-eight, that's a little lower to hell. I know, it's a little low. You really are maturing. No. No. I'm telling you she's probably 18. I'm so proud of myself for Robin because they are getting older as grow, you know what I mean. Now I have a hard time cracking the low 20s, you know, just a hard time. I told you, I saw him one night, I thought he was with a school girl. And 28 year old is almost a geezer. God, 28. I can't believe it. Now, tell me about this fight Shannon Briggs will fight Francoise Botha on August 7th. Isn't Francois a white guy? I thought he is a South African. He's a white a white guy against a black guy, which very sadly drives like crazy. Right. He can understand that, Howard. He understood it very well he created this. This Francois Botha stands a chance against Shannon Briggs. I think probably both are supposed to be very good fighters. Shannon, lost -- I think he's like 30 and 2. He lost to Mike Tyson last, right? No, that wasn't him. That was another white guy. Oh, there's another white guy. They all looked the same. Why don't we get two white guys to fight Shannon Riggs? I don't know. Why not? Has that ever been done? Botha is a very, very good fighter, and he's like the European champion or close. And he's gonna be fighting on the 7th, the August 7th. At the Taj Mahal. At Trump Taj Mahal. So it'll be great. And it will be on Pay-per-view as well. Right. Or you can see it live by calling Ticketmaster 800-736-1420. I love the site, Howard. Yeah, it's fun. I always love it. It's all, you know, in a world that you and I live in we have to remember that. You say in a world that's full of BS, I got to hit the bottom on you. Go ahead finish that thought. We really, you know, I just love the ring. I've always loved the fights because there's none of that -- I mean, it's just two guys in the ring slugging it out. Moment away you have to fight your way through the real estate world, so maybe you relate to these fighters. Well, that was a tough fight. And in the early '90s, the world was really in not such great shape. It wasn't a great shape for me but it came out very good, and I'm happy about it. Are you nude right now? No. In fact I'm in the office. You know he only sleeps two-three hours a night. Which is pretty pathetic when you get right down to. What did you do last night for fun? I actually went to the fashion awards show. To pick up more models. Working on his portfolio. They did a nice job last night. The fashion awards. The fashion awards show on Lexington. It was at 22nd of Lexington and the armory. Did you meet any more models? Well, I'll tell you what, there are a lot of models there. I didn't go for that reason of course. You told me you were lining up the next Mrs. Trump. I guess that process has to begin. You will never going to get married. You'll never marry again, would you? Yeah. I would. You know, sadly it is a great institution if you get it right. Maybe, perhaps not sadly but it's a great institution if you get it right, and you know one of these days I'm going to get it right. What does he mean? He does not know that [Inaudible] He's a smart guy. He's saying that because that makes the chicks interested, cause they think he'll gonna marry her. I see. I know what you are up to. It's wink, wink. You understand, Howard. Marriage correctly done is a wonderful thing. It's a beautiful thing. [Inaudible] Wink wink. You know, usually it doesn't usually work out that way. Yeah. It's hard to fall in love with those supermodels. You never know which one is good. But Donald, do you worry because you have a daughter who's a model. I do and I have a deal with her she's just 17 and she's doing great, Ivanka. And she made me promise her swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her. Howard, as she -- she grows older, the field is getting very limited. Yeah. I mean the nerve of her. Now you can't go out with 16-year-olds. But you know, let me tell you something Donald will not get married again, this is my guess. I don't blame him. In fact, Liberace will find the right woman before Donald does. I'm telling you. You know, Howard was at my wedding, Robin. And he made a statement that was a disaster. I don't know if you even know this, Howard. I came up to the room and there was huge press. I don't think I've ever seen so much press. That's true. Thousands and thousands of reporters. And with all the celebs, everybody, including O.J. Simpson, who you -- I guess you got a picture with him there and put it at the back of your book or something. Thanks to you, yes. That was compliments of Donald. I didn't ask for 10% I just send him the picture. Right, you were very generous. They said we need OJ's permission, I said don't worry about it OJ's I just got bigger problem. He didn't bother with that permission. No. I don't think so. You get permission from Trump. That's it. But he put it on the back of his book but everybody's walking in, hundreds of celebrities and I get back and you know, rather than doing what you're supposed to be doing I turn on the television to see how the press is covering my wedding, right. This is not a good sign for a long term marriage, I can tell you that. I knew I was in trouble right then. Watching TV. So, Marla and I are watching and Howard made the most incredible statement. You remember, Howard? Yes. I do. First of all, he said, there wasn't a dry eye in the house. The next thing he said was, I'm giving the marriage four months. So, with all the celebrities walking and talking to the press. Yes, it's a beautiful couple, they're wonderful, that they're going to be happy forever. You know, all of that stuff was cut. Howard they put on and he said doing a number. And you're wrong, Howard. The marriage lasted much longer. Three years. I was off by a few months. Well, listen congratulations on all your success and all your models. Believe me, every man would like to be you and we'll all watch the Shannon Briggs fight with Francis Botha, Francois Botha Francois Botha Well, that first name is. He's a white guy. Thank you, both and you great. I listen all the time and you know that. Thanks, Donald. And you take care of yourself. Take care. So long, Robin. Bye bye.