On the strip in Las Vegas and for information call 516-9221. Donald Trump is here. He even brought the person who help helped him write the book, Kate Bohner. Bohner? Yeah. And evidently she will give you a boner. I bet he did her too. I wonder, cause Gary says she's really hot. Yeah? Yeah. Well that kept him interested in the book probably. Yeah. That's a smart move to do the book with a really good looking -- There. Wow. And there's your co-writer, Kate, man. I'd like to write a book with you next. Yeah See, that keeps him interested in writing a book if you have a really good looking chick writing with you. You're unbelievable. That is the best. Book might never been finished. Never mind you, Donald, I want to talk to Kate. Kate, you worked with Donald, how many months writing this book? Ah, about five. Fiver or six. You're a knockout About five or six. You're a knockout. Now, how did you get the job? Okay, guys. I was a writer in Forbes magazine, you know. How did you choose -- Please. How did you choose Kate? Purely on her looks. She's very talented. There's nothing wrong with someone based on their appearance. Did you work nude? Howard. Did Donald ever walked down stairs during the run? Where did you write the book? Where did you work on it? In my bedroom. It is. Right in the [Inaudible]. UK. In your bachelor pad. She has fallen in love with one of my executives. Is that right? Totally in love. Not you? It was not like an option. We're all in love with Donald. Did you work on a laptop? Kate, your last name is Bohner? It's Bohner, Howard. I knew you're gonna go there. Oh, come on. I know you're gonna go there. Seriously, I wanna get into the book and everything, cause there's a lot of interesting questions I have. I would always learn new things about you. Yes, I know, and I want to read my passage. Yes. Very nice. We should read that hope -- that was a pretty good. I will read -- you said some very nice things about it. He said if I did that. He'll give me a good -- good shot on the show. You're damn right. You're getting a great shot. You think you're gonna get promoted. Yeah. It's not often that something nice is written about me. Kate, what happened, the process was, that you and Donald would talk, would you talking to a tape recorder kind of thing and -- Yeah. Donald would -- we talk about how to set up a chapter, I come up with an outline and then I mean, Donald -- Where did you do all this work? Where did you do this work? Mostly -- At Mar-a-Lago? I wish that house had a name. Did you do it in a hot tub? I -- cause Donald loves to relax and he enjoys, you know, fine things in life. Would he take you to somewhere special to work on a book? No, Donald's a worker. He's the hardest working man in the world. I know that. Where would you do this in a city. You know, he gave me an office on Wall Street in his new building 40 wall. Wow. Cause I work down there -- Front office, the right -- It's 72 State Building and she has the office where you fit a desk, a little desk. Wow. Is there a bed in there? Were you attracted to her at all? I mean, seriously this is a very attractive -- No, no. I hired her really based in her look. I didn't check her -- Really? You didn't even know if she could write. So seriously, I mean, listen, when I wrote my book I worked with Judith Raegan with my editor and I would sit with her every day and listen to her. And once in a while Judith would kiddingly take a pencil and poke it into my genitalia. You know what I'm -- She admits this, and It made it fu -- I look forward every day to getting down there writing. And I mean, seriously, when two attractive people are together in a room working on something like this, and Donald has a magnetism he gets all the best looking women. According to his book, the women are throwing themselves. Well, they are. I mean he's not lying. And who's the new model you're dating now? I just read, dark-haired-beauty? They do say dark-haired-beauty. I've really been going out with a lot of different people. I just love it. You wouldn't like it. I don't think you've seen such a great wife. You wouldn't -- I don't think you'd like it. He came to torture your life. You know, really, I hate it when you do this. Don't torture me, okay? I'm going out with lots of beautiful women, it's really not that good. Aren't you better off going home, You know you don't believe a word you're saying. No, you don't. I do. The case is that you have a great one. My wife is wonderful. She really is wonderful. Marla is wonderful. Marla is wonderful. Marla is wonderful, Ivana wonderful, everyone's wonderful and he's having a lot of variety. And that's what's great about it. The variety is what I measure. Variety is important, there's no question. It is. I miss it. I do. I may be [Inaudible] I'm not a happily married man like you. I am happily married but I'm [Inaudible] But can I have both? But you have to work here, Donald. Yeah. Don't you have to -- put on your headphones, Donald, because you're not hearing Robin right. [Inaudible] Yeah, right. You know what, Donald hate women so much, he's not even gonna put on a head -- How are you having sex with these women when you -- listen, you -- I -- First of -- Everyone's making a big deal about you with the shaking of the hands. He hates taking hands with the germs. You used to tell me that for years on this show. For years you stated that. That's right. And I agree with you. I believe colds are spread through shaking hands and people are shaking my hand constantly. But now people are analyzing him and calling him an egomaniac. No. I think because he admitted this. They -- what they did in the paper was they said that you wanted people to bow to you. I know. You see, they take it out so out of -- It's so ridiculous. You said the Japanese custom bowing to one another is nice. The only thing I like about the Japanese, and to be honest -- Right. We have [Inaudible] to tell. They cut the deal with. He is not kidding. I have a great relationship with the Japanese. You have to do business with them. They owe me lots of money and I take them back some. But the thing is -- Robin was the only one who catch it. I catch you. Howard didn't catch you. No, I caught it. Why I'm writing a book. Listen to me, when you have sex with all these different women you've got to be nervous about AIDS, Herpes, Venereal warts, Anal warts. Chlamydia. And chlamydia. I mean, seriously I would be scared out of my mind. I talked to a guy, a very high powered guy who recently became single. You know everyone else. And he said to me, it's really great, there's lots of really beautiful women and all that kind of thing, he says, but I'm scared out of my mind. I really don't want to die, I don't want to get AIDS. It's frightening. It is. It is frightening. So what do you do? You just wear a rubber and hope you for the best? Well, I wouldn't say I do this but you could send lots of people that you really like to the doctor before you ever get to know them. That is not terrible [Inaudible]. Tomorrow there'll be a story. I'm sure that lots of people -- except tomorrow there will be a story that, you know, Trump's really a bad guy, just like [Inaudible] No, I would do the same thing, I would do the same thing. They'll find the doctor. The doctors are -- Kate, would you let the doctor -- if you had any chance? Just in case things got a little out of hand? Ah, no, Howard. I wasn't Don't tell me you didn't think about having sex with Donald Trump while you were writing a book. Just think about it. Even I do think of it I wouldn't say it on air because I have the morals clause in my NBC contract. Really, you have an NBC contract? Or CNBC, yeah. And not morals to sleep with the Donald? No. It's considered not moral. It's not moral to think about it. So you must -- It must've crossed both your minds because seriously, she's attractive. It never crossed your mind to sleep with her, being serious now? Well, I don't think so. You know, I looked at Kate really as a worker bee. Right. And she worked very hard on the book. Guess I'm gonna write a book with her. She is very beautiful. Right. But -- but -- And she's also going out with one of my executives. He's really good. I see. And she is -- she is very much in love. And, we hope he is too. Right, Kate? Here's to hoping. I'm all for worker bees, especially when I have a worker B cup or C, beautiful, thank you. All right, anyway, so, Donald the cutting to have you here, you've written the new book. I see you're all over the place with this. First of all, your daughter Ivanka is on the cover of The Daily News today. Now, she's a beauty. She's beautiful. She is the most beautiful of all. Now, you've got to worry about this because, seriously, why would you -- now you got all the money in the world and your wife's wealthy, your ex-wife, you know, I'm talking about Ivana. Right. Why would you want your daughter going -- I think you put your foot down and say, look I don't want you doing this, you're 15 years old, be a kid and, you know, and just -- just stay home. Well, she really wants to do it. And she's very beautiful, she's 15, now just going on 16 and she's 5'11 and which is very, very tall. Right. For any age. And she is just great at it. And she loves it and it's something for her to do. She likes that she goes to school. School is the priority. Aren't you worried about this heroin chic. I am. I am worried about a lot of things. And what about guys, is she dating? She's surrounded. I mean, we had a rock star come up to her, and you wouldn't believe what this guy look like. Yeah. What was his name? Well, it didn't matter because Tell me the name, please. By that time Big Matt, I can't do it. Out him. [Inaudible] He's got more tattoos than I've ever seen in a human being. Go ahead. And she thought he was absolutely awesome. Really? Oh, Jesus. But anyway, by the time my guy finished, Big Matt, that guy -- he'll never call her again. Oh, really? Because you know a guy's got to be thinking not only is Ivanka gorgeous but he figures he can back the Brinks truck up Sure. Because you would be his father-in-law. I mean, let's face it that would be the monologue was it not. It wouldn't be so easy, though. But she's a great girl, she's doing great. She's become a real top model which is amazing. Right. And -- and -- and -- Okay, so let's get into the book. All right, so you wrote this book, and there's more revelations than I can even handle. First of all, one of the ones that I found fascinating that you write about is that you for a while hid Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Presley, I'm surprised the press didn't pick up on this more. You hit them at Mar-a-Lago. They were at Mar-a-Lago. Actually, the press did pick up -- that's where they fell in love. Right. Then you claim you heard them having sexual intercourse. You remember -- I did. You did. Did I say that in the book? But you say that they were going to have HIV. Yes. And I don't know what it's you say you think they we're really doing it. I think that they were really doing it. I mean they were in the tower, they were holding hands, they were kissing all over the house. They were -- I really believe -- You know, and I say this in a positive way. I don't want to be ratting on anybody, ratting would be almost going the opposite way. I think they really were in love. I like, incredible love. Really? And the day they left Mar-a-Lago they fell out of love. They were there for about a week and they were in the tower and my -- And you think it's cruise? Well, Michael would stand on top of this huge tower right over the highest point in Palm Beach and look out and say, Trump, Trump, there's press out there, the press is all over the street, shooting pictures of the tower. He calls you Trump? Yeah. He calls me Trump. Nice. Hey, yeah, Trump, Trump. Trump, Trump. Trump who is a Trump. Trump. Trump. Did you say, hey man, can you call me Donald, man. I'm hiding here, you bastard. But we were there and they had a great time and then it didn't work out so well after that. Right. So you know the two of them, you hid them and you believed that what was going on in the room was actual sex. Absolutely, I believed it. Unbelievable. The worst day of your life you say is, when you were down to $900 million or you lost $900 million. No, I was -- I was down to a very low point. I had billions and billions in debt. I had $975 million personally guaranteed. Around 1991, and I got -- I think It was on the front page of The Times and The Wall Street Journal that, how could he possibly come back from this disaster. We're in a depression, real estate prices went crashing, casinos were crashing, everything was crashing and that was my low point. And I got a call, and the call was from Ivana, who I took very nice care of, I mean, she was very, very lucky to have been married to me. But actually, you say that better than anybody else. Ivana was a witch. She was a witch. Here's what here's what happens, the guy was losing his money. Yes. She says I want my $25 million from the prenuptial. Fine. So, he gave her the god damn -- Oh, please. She did not want a divorce. Well, he wasn't in love with her, what does she want? But you've got to get a reaction somehow. So, you know, she tried kicking Donald when he was down. She's trying to get out of the prenuptial by saying, I didn't understand English. That Barracuda understood English fine. Thank God you got out of that. She was a good woman, actually. Yeah, right. It is disappointing to me. Right. She was disappointed to you. Well, the guy was down and, you know -- What? You know what, she didn't want -- you know, it is very embarra -- Here is a woman who used to run around the country, talking about how she didn't care about women's lib, because the Donald, the Donald, the Donald. You know, and it was personally embarrassing for her to be dumped so conspicuously, you know I'm not -- She wasn't really dumb. Oh, come on. This was something that was long and coming. Come on. You know, that confrontation, that was pretty awful. But things could've happened years before. Yeah. All I know was I'm distracted by your co-writer. Are you wearing -- What are you wearing underneath that? Is that -- You just have a jacket on, and no shirt underneath. Wow you are cute. I don't think she's wearing a bra. You're not wearing a bra? And no makeup, Howard. And no makeup. Wow. How's you -- You're never been married or anything? I was like once or twice at a time. Oh really. To a writer. Oh, no kidding. Yeah. I know about him. He's now married to Tabitha Soren. He left you for Tabitha Soren? Oh, you are that one? Oh, boy. Hey, you want to write a book. What is it, Gary? I didn't realize that this was the woman but they did an article about her husband. He's quite a character. What's his story. He's married a lot of women. Oh, no kidding. Apparen'tly his M. O. is that he gets you to fall in love with him and he does anything he can to do that, and as soon as you do he's disinterested in you. Yeah, he's a real romantic. He's like 30 years old and I think [Inaudible] Do you know about this Donald? I knew about it. You did know about it. What is his problem, Donald? Seriously, what kind of guy is this? I mean, I guess he's a pretty bad guy from what I understand, or least certainly from what Kate -- How many times have you been married? Three? And you're what, the second wife or the -- I was the second. And Tabitha's the third wife? Tabitha's the third wife, yeah. No kidding. But he's a young guy. Howard, how old is he, 32? Thirty six. Yeah, really young. So, the guy made a couple of mistakes. I mean is that so wrong. Why does that make him a bad guy. Oh, be quiet. You were always trying to see that the -- Wait a second he got married to -- Donald, you've been married two times, you can make mistakes. I've been married twice, and we can make mistakes. Well, wait a minute, Donald. Donald, Donald, Donald. You're marriage advice in the book absolutely crack me up. Now, what is -- What is -- What do you say? The marriage advice is If your wife anything let her speak -- [Inaudible] Donald, are you saying that if a woman annoys you, why stay married? No, I'm saying that if a woman doesn't totally support you, and I give examples of a professional golfer who's on the tour, he's a friend of mine, he's got a lot of talent. I will mention his name because why should I. Because -- Tiger Woods, go ahead. But I have a friend who's a professional golfer, he's married. He could be a very good player. Right. Every night he gets a call from his wife, why aren't you home. He says, because, you know, why are you in North Carolina, why are you in California? He plays the tour. This is what I do because I'm a touring professional. Right. Well, why don't you become a home professional. Well, you know, because it's not quite as much money since I'm a touring professional. I'm a great golfer, I have a chance to be a really great golfer. Every night she calls up crying and bitching, and I said to him get a divorce, cause you never gonna change her. And you're doing her a favor. Let me get a guy who she really wants to be. Wait a minute. Say, he's drawing -- you know, he gives you a very broad example. Okay. What's a pretty broad example? That is a broad example. Who could not have been more supportive than Ivana. Ivana wanted to come home and discuss a little business because he was not working for him. So, he said I couldn't say. What about that Donald? Was Ivana the supportive wife that she paints herself to be or was she a big pain in the ass. Go ahead. I tell you what, I made a mistake with Ivana and the reason I made the mistake is that I put her to work for me. Right. And then instead of having a wife, I had a business person and that was not so good. Well, that's what you have. Now, that's true, and I'm not blaming her for -- And you got sick of her. And all of a sudden I'd come home and she'd say, here's what we'll do tomorrow. This is what, you know, the porters are meeting and they [Inaudible] And you want the bath fixed for you and give you some sodomy. I really do not want to hear about it. That's right. I agree with that. And Marla, who only wanted to be a supported wife. But you know what? Seriously, what's going on with his bodyguard, dude? Now here's the way I see it, this -- this Marla who you are married to, who I knew you would never stay married -- You did -- I tell you [Inaudible] But you were wrong because that lasted lot longer. I know what happened with you. What happened with you is that, I know you with the fear of germs, you said, you know what, hey this Marla's great. I remember you were dating Marla. She hot piece of ass. I would love to get into her pants. With your permission, do you mind if I did her now? I certainly wouldn't. You wouldn't even care, wouldn't even be jealous. That would be totally up to you and her. But I tell you what -- I'm pretty sure you're better sexually than I am. I wouldn't screw that up for you. Marla, As far as I was concerned, was sort of like this thing we wish -- remember she started dating like Michael Bolton? Right. And she tried to make you jealous and it kind of worked, he said, hey she's great piece of ass, I dig her and you know what, I don't get AIDS from her. And what the hell, who's gonna be better than her? Might as well just do her. This is exactly why you married her. I sat beside your wedding, I sat there and told the people sitting next to me why you are marrying her. This was the whole discussion. Am I wrong or am I right? Well, I will say this, I was married to two really nice women. At this point they're both friends, at this point. It could change any second. They can form an army. My opinion, therefore, could also change very quickly. Right. But it could change instantaneously, but at this point, they're both very nice women. And I sort of leave it at that. You know I've had -- I've had two -- But that's why you married, am I right? Tell me why you are married. Tell me why you married Marla, am I right or am I wrong? Well, I had a good relationship with Marla, but, you know, it ended. I mean, my relationship really ended, just as it did with Ivana, and I blame -- I don't blame anybody. I think she cheated. I believe the bodyguard story. Well, I was sort of out of there, Howard. Yeah. you're right. He's already saying he's out of there. Are you gonna sue the body guard for -- Well, I'm suing on the basis of confidentiality. I have like 20,000 employees. Right. And everybody signs a confidentiality agreement. Right. And I don't want to have a guy going out every time something happens, every time I don't brush my teeth. I don't want to have a guy calling up the National Inquirer, The Globe with that. Right. So you got to reinforce -- So, I want to sue him. And I also am giving away the money to charity, whatever he made I want to take it away, and maybe more than that. To be honest, you know, what he did was wrong in many ways, and Marla very strongly denies it and all that, but that's up to her, I mean, to be honest, cause again, I've been gone from that situation for a long time, but I will tell you this, howard. The -- the -- when you sign a -- it's like you, you have people, I don't know if you have signed confidentiality -- Absolutely. I mean do you have confidentiality? Yes, of course. Yes. And so I have them, and I just want to enforce it. Now it will cost me ten times more to properly enforce it than whatever I can get from this character. Right. And if you saw the guy you wouldn't be impressed. Really. In fact one of the tabloids, I have another buddy guy who's really a handsome guy Right. And you worry about. Him I am much more worried. Right. But they use they used the other name and this guy's picture. Right. Now, one guy is really upset, and he does pass first this guy. Right. So, actually, he wanted to sue, everybody can sue. Wow. But I've been gone for a long time, from the Marla situation and at this moment I have a very good relationship with her. I have a very good relationship with Ivana and I like keeping it that way if possible but I'm just not sure really it's [Inaudible]. I see. All right so -- so, okay, so let's say Marla did make it with the bodyguard, right? Let's say she did, what do you care, right? You just want to get the guy because he broke the confidentiality. Again, I've been out of that deal for a long time. But, I don't want to have some some ex-employee going around saying a lot of things. By the way no matter what they say -- So what I did is I sued, very strongly sued on the confidentiality, we'll see what happens. So now now getting back to dating, right. And when you got to say to woman, hey listen you got to get to my personal doctor, I gonna have you checked out, is this a tough thing to say to a woman, or you've got the balls to say it? You know, I tell you, It's amazing, I can't even believe it. I've been so lucky, in terms of that whole world, it is a dangerous world out there, like Vietnam, sort of like. It is, it is your personal Vietnam isn't it, you said that many times. Like a great and very brave soldier. A lot of guys who went through Vietnam came out unscathed. A lot of guys who've gone through the 80s having sex with different women came out with AIDS and all kind of AIDS. They survived Vietnam it is better than the Second World War. It is better than Vietnam but it's a -- A little better but every vagina is a landmine. Have we both said that in private? A potential landmine? I think so. That's right. There's a real danger there. When you go to a bar, do you ever go with a fleet of doctors and have them check all of the women and then party with the uninfected. Go ahead. So -- so you say to a woman when you're romantic whether, let's say you do some kissing and stuff then you say, listen, I don't know about you but I really want to go all the way with this thing. Would you go visit my doctor? I tell you what, it's like the whole romantic process is up, because you meet somebody Right. And you start really liking that person and you start, sort of, getting warmth with that person. Right. And then you're really going at it and then you say, excuse me I have to stop now. Now, like, how far -- No like, you know, the 70s were the best type. Oh, please. I'm old enough to have gone through this the stuff. Me too. I had one girl. Howard, can I ask you something? Yes. With this whole theory, what happens if the girl has a lesion after she sees the doctor? Well, then you have a problem. That's the thing you have to double check every time. There is a -- You have to say that to Donald, now he was like, Oh my God. Now, how do you protect it, you have them followed? [Inaudible] He has to be your best friend. He has to go with you at all times. Dating must be the best. They have to do on-site test. Oh, that's fantastic. They have to pass medical school. And by the way, you can meet Donald Trump today. Oh, how is that? At the Barnes and Noble bookstore on Fifth Avenue at 12:30 p. m. Don't shake his hand. Please leave the man alone. What should people do when they meet you, Donald? Well, wait, they were asking to coming into that crummy e-cameras, the crummiest looking camera. It's the cheapest thing. Yes It's the worst looking camera I've ever seen, but they were asking me, would you shake Howard's hand? And I said, yes. We've shaked. Would you shake Robin's hand? Yes. Would you shake Fred's. I don't think so. Gary's, I don't think so. I said Robin's, yes. Howard's begrudgingly. Since you wrote that you don't like to shake hands. Now, do you find everybody is coming up and wanting to shake your hand even more so? You know, amazing, so many -- the book has become very big for all of us. Right, right. The book came out four, five days ago. The Art of the Comeback. It's become a really big seller. So, so many people have read that chapter and they are actually coming up to me with their hands raised and saying, Mr. Trump, Mr. Trump, I don't want to shake your hand. And now you feel even worse. Yeah, I almost feel guilty, but I also feel like, hey you know we'll making it back. That's weird. And you're mad at Governor Whitman, I'm supporting her. I like her. I know you're supporting her. I'm supporting her, but you don't like her cause she -- you feel she's helping out your competition? I'll tell you what, she's spending $300 million just foolishly and very stupidly build a tunnel for a wealthy casino company that's coming to Atlantic City anyway. Right. And there's no reason to spend the money and have to raise people's taxes and everybody's talking about it. The other two candidates are totally opposed to it. Why she's spending $300 million to build a tunnel for a casino company that's coming to Atlantic city regardless of whether or not the tunnel is beyond me. Maybe because lots of new jobs and she wants to make an environment -- Do you believe that? Howard, we do have the jobs anyway. Really? You're gonna the have the jobs anyway, they're coming anyway, and why spending that much money in a state where you have very high taxes. Is she good in bed? Governor Whitman? Don't tell me you haven't had her. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, please. That I wouldn't know. I doubt that. Will you have sex with a woman if she's having her period? Go ahead. Oh, my goodness. You revealed this in the book? I thought you said, I thought he was looking at Kate when he said that. Kate, what about you, would you have sex with the woman when she's having a period? She's done that. [Inaudible] Donald, seriously, you would not, right? Am I correct? Well, I've been there. I have been there. You have been, but you don't like it. Well, sometimes you get there by mistake. I see, you don't even know what's going on. You think you've been shot. It is like Vietnam. Wounded, wounded. Did the nanny killed the kid? I don't think so. You don't think so. No, I think the nanny -- I mean certainly in terms of reasonable doubt there has to be reasonable doubt, how do you give this girl life in jail because -- So there certainly was reasonable doubt. Right. And, you know, I personally think that that trial is not so good. It's sort of interesting O.J. -- Yeah, I know that is weird. To me, the great one is O.J. gets off and he's out playing golf, of course, at public courses. Right. You know which is a horrible thing. That's his Vietnam. But he gets off and she goes to jail for the rest of his life -- her life. That's -- You know, there's just something wrong with that. Let me read what you wrote about me in the book. I spoke to Howard Stern about the premiere of his movie. I speak to Howard Stern about the premiere of his movie. Howard is an amazing guy. Beautiful, which is true. Much different in person than on the air. On the air, he is wild and crazy but totally brilliant. He talked for hours practically without notes about subjects as varied as you can get but mostly about sex. Like today. His ratings are through the roof. He is by far the number one show in New York. He has become a true phenomenon with the industry itself. His movie Private Parts has just come out and for a couple of weeks, it's number one movie in the country. He likes to call himself the king of all media and he is not wrong. His opening was amazing a total hoot thousands of people lined the streets outside the theater. Howard is unique a really nice guy and he has one of the nicest wives around. We know Allison. My only disagreement with Howard is the way he treats Frank and Kathy Lee Gifford, two great people I have known for a long time. I constantly tell Howard stop already but he just won't. Listen, thank you by the way for saying those nice things. But, also, you know I'm right about Frank and Kathy Lee. You know I am. Do we have to get into this? Do you know Susan Johnson? No, but I thought she looked better than I thought in the play. Not bad. Can you blame Frank for getting a little strange? Well, it's too bad, you know, the whole thing. You know what, the airbrushing cost was on that? Oh, come on. Seventeen grand, 17 grand, I'm not kidding. She's got quite a [Inaudible] How did you know that it was 17 grand. That's the rumor. Really? Well, you know a lot. I got to write a book with you myself. Queen of all media. She's got a great job of airbrushing, I tell you. So, I -- were you surprised? I mean, you know Frank and Kathy Lee very well. I do. Very well? Did you know he was cheating? Very well. Did Frank tell you about this woman? No. I don't believe you. How dumb is he? How dumb is he to get caught? He's such a great guy. Oh, come on, that's too much to make you sick. You like to have fun. What's he afraid about? No, he's just a great guy, and he's always been a great guy. What is great about him, tell us. You know what, I met Frank a long time ago, playing golf, we were playing golf together. You say every guy should play golf? I happen to think he does a great job with football. I mean I think his voice is very -- He's not very good at it. Listen, he's not the greatest. Even his coworkers say that behind his back. I like him. Donald, you say in the book people should play golf because that will help them make them business fields? I've -- I've really made a lot of money playing golf and I've gotten to know people better on a golf course than you could ever get like sitting over lunch or talking. Are you good at this game. Pretty good. You are. Pretty good. He's really good. He is. Now, what do you know? You know him that well? I'm here to support. I bet the two of you made love. Oh, Howard. I don't -- I don't believe it. Embrace your imagination. I don't believe it. And you're blushing. No I'm not. Donald, not you. Listen to me. I'm the one who's blushing. The fact, you don't know this while Donald Trump was writing the book, Kate was his caddy also. [Inaudible] Took her into the woods that's not all and never came out. So she was the 19 call. Just kidding, just kidding. Bad joke, bad joke. Please send in the movies, she's gonna like this, right? I'm okay. She's fine. You know what Howard -- [Inaudible] After this one, she's going to feel strong. Believe me I'm heavily into the woman's movement. I love the interview with Mark Wahlberg. Yes, thank you. It was very fun. He was, he was, good he was a lot of fun. I love his voice. Listen to me. What was I just talking about, golf? Yeah, you made a bad joke about the 19th call. Yes, okay, but forget about golf. What was I talking about before that -- You know what I like to do, I'd like to invite you on November 15th, people said it's called the Freedom Party. Give me liberty or give me death. You're having a party? You ever heard of give me liberty or give me death? I heard of that, yes. Well, this is what they're calling this party, it's absolutely untrue. It's because you are free now. Well, that's what they're saying. Right. That's what they're saying, I'm giving the party for, well it is really not. And when is it gonna be? Somebody made that up. Will Suzanne and Frank be there? Or Kathy and Frank. Or Kathy and Frank. If that's the case we'll have a big fight. Let's go back to Kathy in Frank for a second. That's November 15th at Mar-a-Lago, so you are invited. So, it's a party with what, supermodels? November 15th? The most beautiful people in the world will be at this -- Forgy City? Who's gonna go to that party? Like, gir -- beautiful women? I can't tell you the names but -- Al Pacino? The most beautiful people in the world. I could be -- I'm gonna go. You stay home. I'm married. Why were we invited? Donald, what's the point of me going to that if I'm married? There is no point. There is no point. There is no point. You know, Tommy Mottola invited me to his Halloween party. Tommy Mottola will be there, by the way. Will he? Yeah. He invited me to his Halloween party. He's recently broken up with Mariah Carey, he's free, he threw a big Halloween party. He told -- I imagine there must be beautiful women invited to that party. I was at that party. You were? Are there beautiful women there? Really beautiful women. And did you pick up chics there? I wouldn't do anything like that, but you know you had really beautiful [Inaudible] Did you get few phone numbers? Kate Morrissette, this one, that one Naomi Campbell, you have the most beautiful woman of that day. Why do people think it's egotistical of you to say that you've gotten Lady Di, right? You could've gotten her, right? You could've nailed her. Yeah, but could you have send her to the doctor? Of course, I don't know, maybe that one, that was a tough one. He wouldn't answer it. Hey, Lady Di, would you go to the doctor? I don't think he would have asked her. Go back over to my Lexus because I have a new doctor, we wanna give you a little check up. Lady Di you would've gone out with. Not that she was not attractive. She was actually really beautiful. You think so? More beautiful than supermodels? I thought she was supermodel beautiful. I'm telling you, I said this the other day. I said Lady Di had supermodel beauty. Really? She had times, you know, it was interesting, she had times when she didn't look great, and sometimes you look better than anybody in the world. But she was super model. I'm shocked that you say this. I can't believe it. She had the height, she had this, she had magnificent skin. She really had -- she was a great beauti -- And did you meet her? She wrote me a letter. Oh, she wrote you a letter, go ahead. About a couple of months before she died, thanking because I did a favor for something. What did you do? Like a schmuck, I went back to work. I did -- I just -- What was the favor that you did for her? I just did her a favor. She asked me to do something, I did it, and she wrote me a really nice letter. What was the favor? I can't tell you. Yes, you can. Please, please what was it? It's a personal thing. Share your privates? What are you a doctor? Come on, tell me what you did, please. I did something and then I sent her some flowers. What did you do for her? I can't tell you. Yes, you can. Come on. But she really thanked me for the flowers more than the favor. What do you think he did for her? I have no clue. Ever pleasured yourself to her. No, never. Do you still pleasure yourself or are you going to have to have a woman to take care of that full-time? Do you like to do the sec -- I mean, You still dot it once in a while. How do I answer this question? [Inaudible] How do I answer this question? [Inaudible] That's a little of personal effect, you know. I bet you still do it. Kate, do you think Donald still pleasures himself? Oh, I'm gonna stay away from that one, I have no idea. Well, obviously you get to know him that well, did you? You're blushing right now. Really. Maybe I should've worn makeup. She is hot. Can I feel your wrist. I don't mean you, I mean Donald. Donald, let me feel your wrist, please. Check for your wallet No, wait a second. My poor wife, she got me a lot of luxury. She's got her own Mar-a-Lago going. Please, I never want to hear her complain again. That's right. She doesn't even invite him. Right. Well you're both invited. I don't think he should come alone because if he come alone it wouldn't be good. It wouldn't be appropriate. Oh, please. Well, you know what, you are both invited. You can stand there holding hands with your wife. I'm trying to figure out what favor you did for Lady Di. What could you possibly have done -- A favor, just a favor and then send her some flowers and she wrote me the most beautiful letter. Why can't you tell me what the favor was? I can even send you copy of this -- the most beautiful warm letter. Yeah. And instead of following up with that like a schmuck Rob and I didn't. Wow. She probably wanted it. You're better look -- You're 10 times better looking than Dodi Al Fayed. I mean, you never know -- There was an opening. And he was a screw up. Isn't it Dodi Al Fayed a bit of a screw up? He wasn't good for her, as it turned out. No, it wasn't. This was not a good situation. You never would've drove her to the side of the tunnel, would you? Henri Paul would have never driven Donald Trump. No. That's for sure We went 127 miles an hour. Can you imagine? He would have stopped posting the picture, right? By the way, this is Gana Hill. Yeah right. I guarantee the roof of the car had hit the top of the tunnel because you're going down a steep for sure. I know that tunnel in Paris. Yes. You know it's got like a 30 mile limit. Yeah. And the speedometer was stuck at 121. I don't know. That means it was going 121. But if you go on 121 you never had to land you just hit the side of you know the ceiling. Even if you're straight you wouldn't be able to -- Henri said, if Mario Andretti was right -- He could have got through that. Not in a tunnel. Is Mario Andretti a 50/50 shot of getting through that tunnel. It is absolutely insane to go that fast. Well, you know, he was probably a lot of pressure, faster, faster, faster, the guy had no clue where he was. So he said, you wanna go fast, I'll go fast. So, is it fair to say that, with the paparazzi just standing there and post, what's the difference? So, let them take the picture. What are you gonna go 127 miles an hour for? We have the blackened windows, anyway. Right. The black car with a black window, so you're not gonna see it, and I mean, generally, you know what these guys do when they put the camera up to the window, you can actually see the light's gonna come in. But if you look at this tunnel, and I really know that tunnel well, I've been through that tunnel many times, you can't go more than like, 30-40 miles an hour. If you're going 40 miles an hour through that tunnel, you're going fast. These people had to be going 127. It's insane. You're saying your book you do a lot of people lot of favors and it really pisses you off when they're not nice back to you when you're at a low point, they could at least be nice to you. You say, one woman, you got her husband, I guess it what some financial person, you got her husband admitted into a special Catholic, like hospice or something? And nuns are taking care of him 24 hours before he died. And she couldn't get in. It was it's harder here than getting into the Wharton School of Finance. I mean you can't get into this hospital and I got a man through the Catholic Church through the cardinal, the Catholic Church. You called a lot of strings. And bottom line, and he died. He was taking care of magnificent wake. When he passed away and he was, you know, expected to pass away, but he passed away beautifully. And how did this woman screw you? She then -- like a year later it was time to maybe you know she could help me on something. And it was like -- Like with a loan or something? Well, something happened, and she could have very simply helped, and she didn't. And I said, you son of a bitch. Right. I said, I don't believe it. Wow. She is almost, you know, she lost 30 pounds she's looking at the husband forget about him, he's gone. Right. She lost 30 lbs she's now looking for the new boyfriend. Right. You know, the whole thing. She still looks like hell, but she thought she was hot-stuff. Right. So, now it's my turn, I call, I said, listen, well, could you do me a favor bah, bah, bah. What was the favor you needed? What was the favor? It was some kind of financial favor. And then she treated you worse than your ex-wife. No, no. She treated me -- Like dirt. No, worse than if I did -- if I said no to her. Did you say to her, hey I helped your husband when he was dying. I did, but I didn't want to do it. You did. What did she say? Hey, I don't care. Well, she was into a new boyfriend. Wow, wow, wow. Business is rough. Husband was by that point a thing of the past. Not even a memory. This is called the cooler. When is the last time you have sex. When is the last time you have sex with a woman, seriously? Let me see. Did you have sex last night, did you have sex last night? Howard, I never say a thing like that. Yes, you would. No. Of course, you would. But I'll tell you what I did do. I went -- I went to a fashion show last night. Oh, yeah. Now you say that in your book. Marc Jacobs. You say the thing that you say the thing that screws you up in business back then was you didn't pay attention because you were busy living the jet-set life, you go to Paris for fashion shows. Is this happening again? No, no. [Inaudible] I go to Paris, I go to Italy. Oh, you were all over. The same models come to New York, so why do I need to go to Paris? Yeah. Why go to them when they can come to you. And it was embarrassing, everyone was taking down their dresses on, right? [Inaudible] and the top. And I'm really not looking at the dress. So, I interrupted you last night you said, you went to a fashion show. Marc Jacobs had a great fashion show over at the [Inaudible]. Schmatta Meka, he makes what, the jackets? He makes lots of clothing. Beautiful. The show is fantastic as well. But, so, I did that and then I went home. That's right. That's it. And with who? That I can't say. Why, you got laid last night? Son of a bitch, what a party you having? No I'm having a good time. What's the move taking a private jet. The book is better than The Art of the Deal. Was it a white chick? Is that a terrible thing, Robin? How do you not -- [Inaudible] Sometimes, because I do listen to her -- No, no. But you what I don't understand, because I love Robin. I don't understand how, Robin. I bet you're getting a lot of hate from the black community. I don't listen. I'm like you, I don't care. And sometimes they say why does Robin ever back the black community. Well, she does. I do, all the time backing black community. He asked a stupid question, so what? It must have been a chink. What did you have last night? Give me the menu. You got a black woman in bed, ever? Well, that depends on what your definition of black is. Interesting. This is -- I like this. Now, what is your definition of black, Donald? But it's a rainbow. Like a rainbow. Rainbow colors. So, yeah. What is the perfect date when you take a woman out, what is the perfect date? Well, I'd say the perfect date is you needed seven for drinks. 7:30 you're in bed. You promised you'll get dinner but you never got there. Right, beautiful. Look at your co-writer. [Inaudible] At least he's being honest. No, no. And then you're back in the boardroom by eight. Then the amazing thing is you can have a second date about 8:30. You've got to admit, you're a bright guy. A lot of these models have to bore you to death after you orgasm. You know what, can I tell what -- So -- some of these girls, you know when they make $4 or $5 million dollars a year it's not just because of their looks or beauty. Really? You think they're bright? I think a lot to do with their looks. Yeah, right. A lot of these girls are very smart. What is your favorite condom? Please, tell the audience. I don't know the name of it. Really. I don't know the -- Black knight? Black knight. But I'm using, but I'm using, I tell you that. Thank you. What a light, what a light. I am fascinated by this. I hope they worked. What happens if they don't work? We're in trouble. You are, white man. What do you mean we, white man? Donald, Donald Trump The Art of the Comeback. He will take you to his lowest point all the way back to the rise. And for those of you who want to make it in business you'll learn something here. That no matter how far down you go, no matter how low, no matter how much the press kicks you, you can make a comeback too. Is that the message of the book, Donald Trump? That is the message. But I think it is really how to make it in business, and also there's lot of personal questions. Yes, the personal stuff rules. But everyone talks about the personal stuff. You know -- Why not write a book about dating next? [Inaudible] Music is beautiful. Every interview I've done. I have a couple of chapters on the marriage, on the this, and the that, and every interview I've done, not one person has asked me about Trump tower, 40 Wall Street, the big deals, projects. They all want to get back to the same thing. What? What you make living at, sex, sex, everything is sex. Hey, I saw a Stone Phillips interview. Is he the worst or what? No, it was great. It was great. I think it is. But he is a stone. He's a handsome guy. He was great. I'm supposed to look like that. You know, he was -- you were born to be -- I was born to look like that, I don't know what happened. No, no. He's a perfect guy. He looks like G. I. Joe. Yeah. He stole my face. They gave me this one. No, I think he's very good. You do, you like him. You saw the show? I saw the show, I thought it was okay with you. How did I do? I thought you -- I think you did great I do it. Sometimes I fall asleep when he interviews me. Really? And sometimes I feel like, you know, off camera he'll say to me, yeah, I saw your booty, it was great, I loved it pa, pa, pa, pa, pa. And then we'll get on camera, we'll be like, so why did the FCC go after you, and how could you make a movie? You know, so, it's like a two-faced kind of thing. So, if you had a choice between 60 Minutes Dateline and 20-20, which one you pick? Dateline. Sixty minutes, 60 Minutes what a fragile state. Dateline gets the highest ratings. Yeah, you're right. I would go with that. That was the choice. Then you did the right thing, then you did the right thing. Sixty minutes is boring, now too. Yeah, for old guys. Well, Dan Yu has done an amazing job. Dan Yu is a punk. But, you know, you do get sales. Can you imagine me in 60 minutes -- Dan Yu will hate you because you're successful, and wealthy, and you get laid a lot. He would hate you. Anybody who does that, he would hate, because he's bitter and sour. Donald, he's sour. He's a friend of yours? Yes, he's really. Tell him to lighten up. I have different kinds of friends. No, no, that's the problem, I would probably get killed. Yes, you did the right thing. And I've done 60 minutes before, and I've been killed before in 60 minutes. Now, Donald did you find that all of these friends stayed with you through the bad. I was the only one. So, Howard stayed. Yeah. I'm asking Donald a question. Will you be quiet? I want money. You are the worst thing. Yeah, go ahead. I met married Howards at the wedding along with O.J. We had a [Inaudible]. I know. You know what, you could write about it. How about -- Your wedding alone. No, no. You could do a whole book or many books on my wedding, O.J. you, you were sitting right next to him. Oh, yeah, please. O.J. was a nice guy then. It was before the killing. Yeah. This is before the killing. In fact was like another wedding and having him after the killing. We wanna see if it's different. There will be another wedding. What is a good investment right now? I have saved the invitations. I never got to find out, you know, because he was talking about all these friends. I want to know is the same friends from before the fall and after the fall. Well, okay. It really is a great question and it's covered a lot in the book that. I had great loyalty from most people. Is that right? But there were some people that showed disloyalty, God bless you, Kate. Excuse me. And you got to screw them to the wall. And my attitude is screw them to the wall and, you know, you have no idea, you know just in doing these crazy interviews and everything. So many people -- you just said it right. Do you really mean that -- The Stone said that. Like Stone want to do that. Stone is a bubblehead. He's a different personality. Right. He's empty inside. But I had one yesterday, where they said, how could you possibly be so angry and so mean. Now, there was one person who I made, you know, I don't want to take credit. They just took the person out of government. Who is it? Tell the truth, come on. In my case, it's a woman. I took the -- Christie Todd Whitman? Who is it? Out of government. Who is it, who is it? It doesn't matter. Tell me. Actually, I think it's covered. It is covered in the book. I don't know if the name is covered but it doesn't make any difference. Who is it? I took the person out of government. Name this person. I may give it to you -- All right. Good, you have to come back and tell me. All of a sudden, the person's living this beautiful life, his beautiful house, blah, blah, blah. This person could've done something for me when I was in my deepest moments. Hilary Clinton. She thought that I wasn't gonna make it back. You know, a lot of people thought I was not gonna be able to come -- they figure out I have to go bankrupt, that I would be -- You know, and like so many of my friends they've gone, so you'll never hear from them again. Right. And you know it's pretty sad. Yes. My business now is much bigger than it ever was, much stronger, much richer, much everything, instead of -- You know, it is amazing, that's why I write a book. So this person did left my side, now I am supposed to be doing something for that person, not even a chance. Right. And let me tell you something. That's the way you succeed in business. That's what I do to my enemies, I screw them to the wall. Don't F with me. And people say, Donald, that's terrible. Oh, everybody's like that, who would help somebody who -- Who screws you. Right. It wasn't even a question of screwing, didn't do something, covert. There's a woman on the phone and she said asked you out on a date. Yes, Jill? Or you want to ask Donald out on a date? Yes, I would love to. Quickly, how big are your breasts? I'd cut right to the chase. So I could get a lot of hot chicks. How big are they? 34C. C. Not bad. Not bad, right? You know, could be better. Are you a supermodel? Am I a supermodel? No, I'm not. How old are you? How old am I? Yes. I'm 44. Get out of here. Next, next. What are you crazy? Man dates 19 year old. Forty-four. Wrong answer. Donald Trump. Ladies, if you want to go with Donald Trump. You can meet Donald today at the Barnes and Noble bookstore on Fifth Avenue at 12:30 p. m. Wouldn't it be great if you met your next wife at the book signing? It could happen. It could happen. Why not? It'll be a great story. Marriage is great. Here's the final question of the morning. Look how happy you are. I'm thrilled. You would do it again, Donald? Oh, sure he would. I like the institution of marriage. I really do, I mean if you get it right. I haven't gotten it right. Yeah, you're never going to get it right. Trust me. He's gonna try again, and again, and again. There's no such thing as getting it right when you can have the variety you can have. I mean there's what -- All right, I have one more question, one more question, one more question. I have one last question. Go ahead. How tough is the prenup going to be for the third one? Very tough, and I mean, very tough. Of course. Tell me, what that's one gonna say? It's going to be extraordinary. They're going to owe him $50 million dollars when they break up. It'll be an encyclopedia Britannica. All right. Here's my final question. If you were on a desert island, no money, strict survival, you can either have one of two women with you, Ellen DeGeneres or Rosie O'Donnell. Who do you take? Don't forget Ellen's a dyke. We don't play -- Oh, Rosie O'Donnell. Yeah, that's a tough one. Who do you take, Ellen DeGeneres or Rosie O'Donnell? I take -- I have to go with Rosie. Really? No, I don't believe you, I think you'll take Ellen. I know Rosie. Oh, I see. And she's worked for me and she is a friend of mine and I know you don't like it too much. And I know you didn't like a performance where she broke down in the stage. That's right. Thank you, sister. Is she good in bed? Extraordinary. Extraordinary, okay. Donald Trump, The Art of the Comeback. You could meet Donald today at The Barnes and Noble bookstore on Fifth Avenue 12:30 p. m. You're always a great guest. And I also want to thank Kate Bohner for coming by. Some say Bohner, I believe it's boner. You say boner -- That's right. And I want to thank Kate Bohner who is very attractive, very, very attractive, and also very bright. Not much of a writer. And thanks for coming in here, it's always great to have you here. Good luck with the book, The Art of the Comeback. Check it out, it's a really good book. We'll be back right after these words. Tomorrow's show will feature.