Donald, it's great to sit down with you, but let's talk first about why bring Miss Universe to Moscow? What was the catalyst for that? Well, you know Thomas, first of all, we're very proud of the job you're doing. You've been amazing. First thing I did, I came here I said How's Thomas doing?"""ell They said he's doing fantastically. Because this is not something... I mean you're very professional, but this is something that's unique to anybody. Everybody wanted the Miss Universe. We had 18 countries that wanted it, they fought really hard to get it. Probably going to China next year, but China wanted it this year. And Russia wanted it very badly. The folks that Brosius hall have been amazing. Russia wanted it. Moscow wanted it. And as you know they have the Olympics coming up in February, and this is really going to be the start for them, the start of the Olympics is the Miss Universe contest. You're not one to shy away from controversy. This did bring controversy to pick this venue because of the current propaganda law that Putin's government put into place, that is against its gay population. What do you say to the people that are questioning why bring it to Moscow especially when the LGBT population is being discriminated against? You know it's very interesting, because when we did it we didn't really know this is such a controversy. And perhaps we should have known, but we didn't. And after we signed, it became quite controversial, and as you know Andy Cohen and other people sort of... I wouldn't say spoke against it, and he's done a very good job doing what you're doing. But they didn't come out exactly in favor and then... we have, as you know we have a lot of gay people that work at the Miss Universe pageant, and we spoke to them. We said what do you think?" And they said we want to go I thought it was great, and I think it's going to be very special. When we got you, and the first time we spoke you told me you were gay and I said, good So what does this mean about your politics? Back at home, when it comes to marriage equality ,or saving theEmployment Non-Discrimination Act, that just passed the Senate? Do you think that entrenched homophobia is a problem not only in our home country but internationally? And how would you try to save... that because right now you're in Russia and you're saying you know that we support equality and you're against the discrimination here, nut back at home it's a different stance? Well, I think really what you have is a very interesting stance and its a changing stance, and you see it changing very rapidly. If you go back 10 years ago, it's a lot different than it is today. The president was against gay marriage, and now he's in favor of gay marriage, and you have many people changing. I think that it's an evolving process Thomas and it is evolving very quickly now obviously the United States is far ahead of Russia in terms of what you're talking about but it is very much evolving and I think probably evolving to the point where you're becoming a lot more comfortable with it . And, where are you evolving to at this point? What's your stance on marriage equality? I sit across from you a married man back at home, recognized by our federal government. So what do you think of marriage equality and where your stance is, and if you are evolving? Well I think I'm evolving and i think I'm a very fair person but I have been for traditiona,l as you know, for traditional marriage . And so when we're at that spectrum of evolving where would you put yourself? From 1 to 10? So 10 fully evolved, you're President Obama, you've evolved. Well I don't know if he's fully evolved. We'll see if he's fully evolved. But you know I'm... I'm sort of probably a little bit in the middle. I mean I am for traditional marriage. I'm for marriage between a man and woman and I've been that for, you know, that's... that's where... that that's the way. Can it change? I don't know, but my stance right now is traditional marriage. OK, so when we talk about what the current politics are back at home, we know that there is a tense relationship between President Obama and Vladimir Putin and especially when it comes to world stage issues, do you have a relationship with Vladimir Putin? A conversational relationship, or anything that you feel you have sway or influence over his government? I do have a relationship, and I can tell you that he's very interested in what we're doing here today. He's probably very interested in what you and I are saying today and I'm sure he's going to be seeing it in some form. But i do have a relationship with him, and I think it's very interesting to see what happened. I mean, look he's done a very brilliant job in terms of what he represents and who he's representing. If you look at what he's done with Syria, if you look at so many of the different things he has really eaten our president's lunch. Let's not kid ourselves, he's done an amazing job. He's put himself really, as you know, a lot of people would say he's put himself at the forefront of the world as a leader in a short period of time. Now, in all fairness to Obama, I think that he's done the same thing with Bush, with President Bush. I think that Putin has done an amazing job of showing certain leadership that our people have not been able to match. When it comes to politics in general, do you really have political ambitions for yourself or you just like to run the, the, the hotline of staying involved politically, but maybe not actually running for office. Because there was a rumor that maybe you're thinking about running for New York Governor. Well, that was a rumor that I immediately quelched. Tthere was a not only a rumor I mean everybody wants you to do it ,and wanted me to do it. But I had no interest in that and I told them that. What happens is polls are taken and I do very well in polls, because people know my stance on China and lots of other places that just rip us and just laugh at us and they can't believe it and I can't believe what they get away with. And I have great respect for all leaders, but I can't believe what their leaders get away with with respect to the United States because they are really taking advantage of our country. And people hear this and other things that have to say, and I think they like it. So it's not me, they go out and they talk to people and they'd like to see me run, and you know to be honest the question was just as soon. As many times today at the Miss Universe got this thing would you run, and it's just too soon to say because we have a big election coming as you know very well you covered very nicely in 2014 and we'll see what happens. What you think about the Republican brand right now back at home? Well i think it was badly hurt and i think it was... I think it's very disunited. I... if they were together, they could have gotten something and maybe something very good. But you have two factions and it's very disunited and really trouble. I will say this however President Obama has got to do something with his website and Obamacare, because that is absolutely hurting him so badly. I mean what's going on with the website that cause $635 million. I have many many websites all over the... tremendous... whether it's Doral Hotel or the Old Post Office or Trump Tower, they're great. I don't spend $635 million. I don't spend a million. I don't spend anything for websites. They spent $635 million on a website that is totally a mess to a Canadian company, etcetera etcetera. I do think this. I think that's had the worst impact on the president of almost anything. I mean lots of problems but that's had the worst. In fact he's got to get that straightened out or I really think I actually think it will be devastating for the Democratic, for the Democratic Party come '14. It's going to be a very interesting time. It certainly is something for Republicans to unite around, as you say, to redefine the brand. By the way they are very united around Obamacare, but then that I mean you have such different, and such divisive views. But I think if they don't get that fixed, if they don't get Obamacare going, and I'm not a fan of Obamacare, but if they don't get it going that will be devastating for the Democrats.