Now honored to have our guest, Mr. Donald Trump. Mr. Trump is one of the most successful real-estate entrepreneurs in the history of the country. He's a graduate of the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School of Business. Mr. Trump, this is what I don't understand: How can a guy that's created -- and by the way, how many jobs have you actually created, do you know? In your life, high-paying jobs, in various companies? Right, I'm trying to figure it out, but it's tens of thousands over the years. I have thousands right now but it's tens of thousands over the years. It's crazy. So tens of thousands of high-paying jobs of employees that, and I'm sure The New York Times has been through to try to get every disgruntled employee, but you know -- That's true, I would imagine so. I haven't heard about it yet, actually. Sort of amazing when you have that many and there haven't been stories. It's sort of incredible. That's what I'm saying. I'm sure there will be some disgruntled, maybe down the road, but you would think -- They'll find something. They will find somebody. This is what I don't get: Tens of thousands of employees, a guy -- you know, last cycle with Romney was all about job creators and you know, job creators this and job creators that and the guys who create jobs. So hey, we got a guy that's actually created jobs -- real jobs, real careers. Right. OK. An entrepreneur, a graduate of the Wharton School. And there's a group called Club for Growth, right? Right. Club for Growth, it's supposed to be about entrepreneurism and growth. And they have gone out of their way to take attack ads on you in Iowa and are running around bragging about the fact and trying to raise more money that hey, our negative ads on Trump are working and you guys got to pay attention. Hey, over here, donor class, let's go raise some money. What does it say about the state of the institutions of the Republican Party and various things associated with their historical donor/consultant/permanent political class in D.C. that a group that purports to be, to back entrepreneurs and really talk about entrepreneurial finance and how you get that, that they would go out of their way to take negative ads on, I would say, maybe except Wendell Willkie, the most successful entrepreneur ever to run and to take a serious run for president of the United States. Well, you know, it is pretty sad. And I will tell you that -- and you know about this, Steve -- the head of it is, I guess, a nasty guy. Came up to my office, asked me for a million dollars. I never even heard of the Club for Growth, alright? Which is fine. That doesn't make it a bad. And what happens is he came up to my office, asked me for a million dollars, and he came through somebody that I know, and I said, 'A million dollars for what? What am I doing?' You know, we could be rich, but we don't have to be stupid. And he said, 'Well, you know, we're the Club for Growth.' And I said -- He clearly hadn't been prepped to go in and ask Donald Trump to write a check for a million bucks. You gotta be spring-loaded. Well, at least, you know, give me a good answer, right? So I said, 'Why?' And he gave me something. I said, 'Well, write me a letter.' He wrote me a letter asking for a million dollars. I don't know if you've seen it. I've seen the letter. He sent me a letter asking me for a million dollars. We politely turned him down. We said no. All of a sudden, like, you know -- By the way, in the letter -- correct me if I'm wrong -- in the letter, didn't he praise you as, like, the great, one of the greatest entrepreneurs in human history? It was very nice. lt was a very nice letter. But the bottom line is that the important sentence in the letter was, you know, we'd like 1 million dollars. A contribution or a donation or whatever they would call it. So he asked me for a million dollars at a meeting, he asked me for a million dollars, and we very nicely, Steve, turned him down. And immediately thereafter, I think, he had a press conference to announce what a terrible person I am, etc. etc. etc. And he brings up this thing about eminent domain -- and by the way. I'm No. 1 in the polls in Iowa again. So, you know, with this with all the money they spent I'm still No. 1 in the polls in Iowa. So I don't know. I don't think that had any impact frankly. But I'm No. 1 in Iowa and doing really well there. We have rallies that are incredible. But the interesting thing -- so they use eminent domain. Now, I don't like eminent domain. But if you're going to have a government, and if you're going to build a highway, and if you're going to build a road, and if you're going to build a sewer line, and if you're going to build anything, in order to function you need eminent domain. And in fact, the big pipeline that they're all, the Keystone Pipeline is a huge -- which they are in favor of, and probably you are, and so am I, by the way -- is all eminent domain. They have hundreds of miles, thousands of miles, whatever the length of it is -- you're not going to get any of that land if you don't use eminent domain. You understand. You know, you're going through farms and you're going through areas and you're not going to get that. So they're in favor -- I assume they're in favor, most conservatives are in favor of the Keystone Pipeline. But let's assume they are. They have a whole chapter, a whole big section, when you read about the Keystone Pipeline, that the Keystone Pipeline -- people put out about eminent domain, what a wonderful thing it is etc. etc. So they're attacking me primarily on eminent. I mean, they can't attack me on jobs, because who's done a better job than me? But they're also -- this is what I don't get. Why are they attacking an entrepreneur when they've got Bernie -- they've got a socialist running -- and then who knows what Hillary Clinton is, right? She's so far left, you know, and they don't attack her, but they're talking, a guy. The other thing, in the subtext, is the, your protectionism is gonna lead us into a great trade war with our trading partners. And by the way we had James Delingpole on earlier with The New York Times article talking about how the Chinese have been lying -- been lying about carbon emissions, about their coal mine. Oh, absolutely. Every number out of China is a false number. They just make stuff up. Oh, absolutely. No, they're terrible. I mean, look, they're friends of mine. But they're terrible, what they do. You know, I've done tremendous business with China. I've made a lot of money against China. I have the Bank of America building in San Francisco, I own a big chunk of 1290 Avenue of the Americas, one of the biggest office buildings in New York, all through China and against China. I mean, I've done great with China. They buy apartments, they paid me a fortune. But what they're doing, and I know many of the biggest people in China, they can't believe they get away with it. They cannot believe they get away with it. So what happened with Club for Growth -- so the bottom line is I say no nicely. And they go out and they do this thing. I don't think it had an effect because I'm still No. 1. You know, I mean, it's like one of those things. But you're right. You know what I find? And this is really sad. The liberals attacked me, but I find that the conservatives attacked me much more viciously. I don't understand it. And I've heard it all of my life. If you're a conservative, if you're a Republican, you'll get attacked more viciously by certain conservative groups. I won't even mention the names. I don't don't understand it, because most of my views are their views. Do you think -- well, Politico had this story. Politico has a story -- of course, when I say it's a story, it's all unnamed sources, it's all, it's a guy who talked to a guy who saw your son-in-law at a party talking to another guy who might know a guy. Right? It's like connect the dots. But you're supposed to be going around now begging for money from the Kochs, begging for the money from Paul Singer, begging for a meeting with Sheldon Adelson. It appears that that is another thing of the donor class. Somehow the donor class is upset that Donald Trump's not taking their money, right? And they don't -- I had a guy come up to my office, he wants to give me a fortune. I said, 'I don't take it.' I mean, there's no way I can take it. I'm not, you know, I don't have the PACs and stuff. You know I closed -- we had, I think, 10 or nine or 11, many PACs were organized for me by people. I mean, they just set up a PAC. This whole thing with PACs, Steve, is a scam. I mean, it's really a horrible thing that's going on. And they're controlling all of the candidates, by the way. We wrote legal letters to all of the PACs closing them down. So other than that, we can't take anything. Now, we take little money. People send in $50 and $100, and we take it, because if you sent it back it would be terrible. How do you send it back with a letter that we don't want your money? You know, these are people that write in and they send seven and a half dollars, $12, you know, and they're invested. I love that. I think it's a great -- that's the way the system should work. But we closed down at least nine PACs where we wrote letters to them. And some of these people are very good people. I'm sure they did the PAC, they did it for the right reasons. And some, I'm sure, are going to live off the PAC. But what's happening with the candidates is they are totally being, the candidates are totally being controlled by their super PACs. And their super PACs are, you know, I mean some of these things have tremendous money in them, and they're totally controlling -- if you look at Carson, his campaign in Iowa is being run by his super PAC. It's being run by the PAC. And it's not supposed to be. You look at Jeb Bush, where he has an event -- A hundred million, he's got a $100 million super PAC. He has an event where the super PAC is in one ballroom and he's in a ballroom right next to it. And there's not supposed to be any coordination. This is our buddy Dave Bosse's thing, but we'll come back to that in a second. I just want to get back -- I love Dave Bosse, but we've got to find a better way, that when people put up money, let 'em put up money where it's not this way, this whole concept of a super PAC. You don't think it's probably, you don't think they have the first -- you don't think they have a freedom-of-speech right to be, if they want to put money up and back a Jeb, if a bunch of guys want to write checks for $100 million dollars and back a Jeb Bush -- You invite them to a campaign, and I think there should be full disclosure that they put up the money and everything else, but they should write it to a campaign. And frankly, the people should be able to spend it. But you know, they're not even -- This is not sour grapes? You don't think your super PAC's going to raise a ton of money, this is not sour grapes? You're absolutely, adamantly opposed to this. If I wanted to I would have had a super PAC with $300, $400, $500 million dollars in it. I would have had the biggest super PAC ever created. I know everybody! Hey, look, Carl Icahn just endorsed me. Carl Icahn, everybody. I mean, it's so -- The Chinese are not gonna dig that, when you unleash Carl Icahn to be your chief negotiator. Well, they're not gonna do so well, the Chinese, OK? It's gonna be a different story. They're gonna say, 'What happened?' They're right now dealing with some guy who's a political hack. You know, the Chinese will not be doing so well when I send Carl in. 'Carl, check out the trade deal.' You're gonna share Froman from the trade rep to Carl Icahn/ That's when all hell's gonna to break. Lemme go back to the Politico story -- You know, I am a free trader, by the way. Just so you understand. Because you had mentioned about this Club for Growth or whatever it's called. I am a free trader. But it's got to be fair. China is killing us on trade. They taxing us. Do you think free trade as a concept has been turned in kind of a fetish by The Wall Street Journal? Where it's just America gives everything away, everybody takes advantage of us on this rubric, free trade. You're saying hey, I'm a free trader, but I'm also a savvy business guy that's worked throughout the world, I know what the deal is. It's gotta be fair. It's gotta be fair. We don't tax them, they tax us. I have friends that are, you know, manufacturers and all. They can't get their product into China. No way they get their product into China. When they do they get taxed. When China sends their product in, it comes easily and no tax. That's not fair. We have a trade imbalance with China right now of almost $400 billion a year. I mean, Steve, it's $400 billion a year! I will stop all of that. The Politico story, I just want to get to this, because I was kind of surprised that it had novelistic tendencies to it, because I don't think there were any named sources. I might be wrong, I apologize, but it was all, you had a son -- I find Politico to be one of the most dishonest organizations I've ever dealt with. They are in my opinion some of the most dishonest people I've ever dealt with. It is not true what they write, generally. I mean, they write some true stuff -- By the way, they got some really good guys over there. Mike Allen, the whole team over there. Why do you think, why do you say that? Do you think they're out for you? You think they're out to -- I can only tell you as pertains to Trump. I have had more false and dishonest articles from Politico than, I think, anybody else, and that's saying something. I find Politico to be -- to a point where we don't deal with them anymore. Essentially don't deal with them anymore. You give them stuff and they write it -- Give me a specific, be specific. Give me an example where you think -- Well, l I'll tell you, I'll give you just one little thing. I was in Phoenix we had a tremendous crowd of people. Thousands and thousands. I remember -- this is the rally. I remember. Politico said it was 4,000 people. It was, the next day or the next whatever Bernie Sanders was there. He had a smaller crowd. They said he had 15,000. They wouldn't -- and then -- We had people there. There was a lot more than 4,000 folks there. And let me tell you, the 4,000, in a later story they said, 'We're reducing the 4,000 to 2,000.' Steve, I have pictures of the room. That room was packed. I have pictures of Bernie Sanders' room. He also had a good crowd. But I would say it was a good 25, 30 percent less than us. They were so dishonest. That's one of many things. I find Politico -- and I deal with everybody, including Breitbart, in all fairness, right? And I do like Breitbart. And Breitbart is legit, I mean 100 percent legit. I mean, you guys write -- and if it's not good, you're gonna write about it too! But when it is good, Steve, you're gonna say the truth. I can't get good stories from Politico no matter what I do. The Fox polls came out last night. You know, I'm doing very well. Let's see how they cover that. Now, I find others to be pretty bad. Actually, the truth is I have found that the political press or the media is unbelievably dishonest overall. I find Politico, I think I find Politico to be about the worst. But there's so many good people over there. Why do you, what is it about it, do you think, when you say it's the worst? I don't know. Maybe they don't like me, I don't know. Maybe they don't like me. I always heard they were liberal-leaning, maybe. But you know, I don't know why they would be -- But you think there may be something deeper about that, about the permanent political class or whatever? I think there's something, maybe somebody, maybe the owner of -- do you know who the owner of Politico is? I think it's the family, the Allbritton family I think, down in D.C. And you know who likes them a lot is my daughter, and they like here. They love Ivanka and she loves them, she thinks they're great. And I don't ask -- Well, if you had to pick a Trump to like, she's by far the easiest one to like, right? I don't want to get personal, but she's by far the easiest one to like. No, no, I agree. You're an acquired taste. All I can say is, for whatever reason, we get very dishonest coverage from Politico. And I don't think they're doing very well. You know, eventually that catches up with you. And Corey Lewandowski and Hope Hicks have sat down with Politico and actually have a discussion? Oh, many times. Many times. And it just doesn't work out. They have a reporter there named Ben something -- he's terrible. He's terrible. He writes so badly and so incorrectly. And you know what? I don't mind a bad story when it's fact, OK? You know, I don't mind. I have -- somebody said, 'You have thin skin.' I said, 'No. If I have a bad story -- I do something good, they give me a bad story, then I get angry. If I do something, you know, that's not so hot, a little bad stuff, and they write about it, that's OK. I fully understand'. That's the way the game is supposed to be played. But of all of them I find Politico to be the worst. Did you go to Paul Singer, and to Sheldon Adelson, and to the Kochs and to Charles Koch, begging for money? No. Is that what they said? Well, the story says that you've been trying to set up meetings with Adelson, you've been trying to set up meetings with Paul Singer, you've been trying to set up meetings with Charles Koch. Paul Singer I don't know, OK? David Koch invited me to his house a long time ago, during the summer, long before I was running, and he invited me -- that's what they're talking to you. And David Koch, in Palm Beach, has a beautiful house. David's a very nice guy. He invited me to his house. I went there along with many other people. You know, there were probably 50, 60 people. Some of them were governors and senators, some of them are running in the race. But I didn't go for money. I didn't I didn't invite myself. He invited me. I was in Palm Beach. In fact, I was a little bit upset about it because I couldn't play golf that day, OK? I would have preferred playing golf, as much as I like David. But I went to his house in Palm Beach. They had, you know, people there, different people, different kinds of people. Governors, they had a couple of people that were running, or a few people that were running. But that was an invitation from him to me. I didn't ask to go. Before we get off this topic -- next hour we're gonna have Mike Huckabee on, but we're also gonna have some Disney employees, we're gonna have a woman that represents this H1-B visa fiasco. By the way, Mike Huckabee is a terrific guy. The way he stuck up for me with that guy John Harwood, who hopefully his career has been destroyed -- but I think, and you can tell Mike Huckabee I said it, Mike Huckabee is a stand-up man. The way he stood up was so incredible. And then he did it on another television show on Fox, where he stood up for me and he actually said -- you know he talked about my children. Anybody that could have children like that can't be all bad, as the expression goes, OK? 'Cause I do have good children. Mike Huckabee is a terrific guy, I will tell you, so I hope you give my regards. I will. He's on here also gonna talk about these H1-B visas. What do you think about this situation where you have American companies, particularly technology companies, that are letting go highly trained American IT, blowin' 'em out, to have them train their replacements, and hiring foreign workers. Just generally, what's your sense of that. It's no good. It's no good. I mean, we have to do something about it. And you know, people are coming in and they're taking jobs and they're getting paid less money and they're, you know, a lot of things happening, a lot of bad things. You know, having -- and a lot of it has to do with borders. One of the things I did say, though, and I feel strongly about this: When somebody's going to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Penn, Stanford, all the great, and they graduate -- and not only graduate but do great -- and we throw them out of the country and they can't get back in, I think that's terrible. We've got to keep -- we've got to be able to keep great people in the country. We've got to create, you know, job creators. One man went to, I think it was Harvard, there was a story a month ago -- went to Harvard did well, good student, wanted to stay in the country, wasn't allowed to. Went back to his home in India, started up a company. Now it's a very, very successful company with thousands of people. He wanted to do that here. We have to be careful of that, Steve. You know, we have to keep our talented people in this country. I think you agree with that. Do you agree with that? I got a tougher -- you know, when two-thirds or three-quarters of the CEOs in Silicon Valley are from South Asia or from Asia, I think, on occasion -- my point is that a country is more like, it's Sessions', a country's more than an economy. We're a civic society. I want see -- Well, in any event, you have to keep 'em legally. Yes, yes. When people come in, they have to come in legally. I want people to come into the country, Stephen. I've said that. You know, I'm building the wall, we're going to have a border like very few people have. We're gonna have a wall that's gonna be a great wall, it's gonna be be a wall that works. And if you want a wall that works, just ask Israel. That wall works. Somebody said 99.9 percent. But the walls work. You know, when these characters say it doesn't work, they don't know what they're talking about. But we're gonna have a wall. But I still want people to come in, but I want 'em to go through the process, I want 'em to come in legally. How about all the people that have been waiting to come into the country for years, going through the legal process, and now you have people just walk in like it's, like, off the street. No good. You gotta remember, we're Breitbart, we gotta be, we're the know-nothing vulgarians. So we've always got to be to the right of you on this. That's OK. Last thing, last thing. On Saturday Night Live -- by the way, the spots have been hilarious, they actually had to take some down, I think they were so funny. It might have violated campaign law, but here's a question: They're actually now talking about, I think this out there and I think we're reporting this, they're trying to recruit people to go in the audience, pay people to stand up and say you're racist. There's one after the other cultural figures or politicians coming up and saying this should cancel. What's your sense of just, and I don't want to give the inside baseball pf what's happening with the cast, but, but are you comfortable that nothing's gonna happen? Are you comfortable that this thing's gonna proceed and be a night of entertainment and comedy. No, I have a very good relationship with NBC. You know, they renewed The Apprentice for a two-year period and 28 shows, and I couldn't do it because I'm running. And so, you know, I mean I have a very good relationship. And we had the difficulty with Miss Universe, and actually I bought them out and sold the whole thing and made a fantastic deal. Sold the whole thing to IMG, which is gonna do terrifically with it, I think. So, you know, 'cause it was good, I took that over, was a sick puppy, and made it something really special. But no, oh no, it's gonna proceed. Hey look, honestly, It only makes it hotter. You understand that, you're in the ratings business now, Steve. Sadly I didn't tweet today because that is how many times -- I was gonna tweet that I was on your show. So your ratings won't be as great because nobody's going to know, maybe. But you'll still get great ratings, I hear you're doing very well. By the way, the show the other day, your first show, the story -- we had five stories come out of it -- your story on Wasserman Schultz, at 9 o'clock at night was the No. 1 story in the world on Facebook, trending. Oh really? Oh, she's terrible. It was on fire. I watch her, I mean, I think she's just absolutely a terrible -- She cuts good deals though. She cut a good deal on TV. By the way -- You're right. She is a, I think she's in many respects terrible, in many respects she probably does a very good job. Hillary came out of there, there wasn't anybody gonna ask any bad questions. And when you look at what happened with the Republicans, it was a difference. Are you going to cut a, beside what Megyn Kelly thinks, are you gonna to cut a better deal for the for the other candidates in dealing with the networks? Well, I don't know what Megyn Kelly thinks, actually. What does Megan Kelly think? I think she was making the point that, that all the candidates, all you guys are complaining, all of you. I don't think she's singled you out. Did you guys want a foot massage, right, instead of tough questions? Well, I think that this, I don't really care that much. I've enjoyed the debates, I've done well in the debates obviously. You know, the new Fox poll came out last night, late last night, and I was in the No. 1 position, I went up, and it showed that I did well with the debate stuff. So I don't really care that much about, other than I would like it to be, like, you know, 72 degrees in the room. Remember when we went to the Reagan Library, it was 100 degrees, it was ridiculous. You need certain, you know, you do need certain parameters. But I really just want to debate and get it done. I mean, I've enjoyed it, I've enjoyed the process. I've never debated before, professionally. Politicians, that's all they do is they debate. They're whole life is a debate. They talk and they don't get anything done. But I will tell you that I would just like to get it done and, you know, get the debates over with. And I've just enjoyed the process. I don't care that much. People think I'm negotiating -- I really don't. I did negotiate two hours from three. Even though John Harwood lied when he said oh no, we were never gonna have it be three. It was going to be three. You know that because it was in all the news. I like your concept of taking the cash. Why didn't the networks make it -- this is supposed to be a public trust, why don't they just kick it back to the veterans groups. I love that idea. They're making a fortune. They were getting, it was reported that CNN, it was, I think it was $2,000 for 30 seconds. I knew they weren't gonna get carried interest on Donald Trump too long before all summer, 'We've gotta renegotiate this. We gotta look at the split here guys.' OK, Mr. Trump -- I wanted it to go to the vets, I will say, and I still do. That's where the money should go, 'cause they're making a fortune. Mr. Trump, thank you so much, I know you're terribly busy. Thank you for joining us. Thank you very much, Steve. You take care of yourself. Thanks, bye. OK, thank you. Breitbart News Daily, that was Donald Trump.