[This is a transcript of a single camera view of the interview between Donald Trump and Lesley Stahl. There appear to be no edits or breaks from beginning to end. Other than cleaning the audio to remove noise, video is unchanged as released by Donald Trump on his campaign Facebook page.] Are you ready for some tough questions? You're gonna be fair. Are you ta -- I'm gonna be fair. Just be fair. But last time I remember you saying to me, "Bring it on. Bring it on now." No, I'm not looking for that. I'm looking for fairness, that's all. You will get fairness, but you're okay with some tough questions? No, I'm not. You're not okay with tough questions. I want it to be fair. You, you don't ask Biden tough questions. Mm-hmm. Huh? I don't need to. I -- I -- It's terrible. It's terrible. I haven't interviewed him. You know that. Okay. Are you ready? Everybody ready? Yeah. Okay. Can I start? One second. Lesley [Inaudible] She'll be fine. Am I okay? You're good. Okay. You ready? So, we have the pa -- pandemic. On your watch we've had racial strife, we've had looting. Why do you want this job? Why do you want to be president again? Because we've done a great job and it's not finished yet. And when I finish this country will be in a position like it hasn't been maybe ever. Uh, the economy is already rolling back. And uh, other people aren't gonna bring it back. Certainly the person that we're dealing with is not gonna bring it back. They're gonna raise taxes. They're gonna take away your second amendment. They're gonna do things that nobody would even believe. It's radical. There's never been anything like it. You know, we are -- Let me ask you -- We are positioned like never before. We're gonna have a fantastic year next year. Let me ask you what you think your um, the biggest domestic priority is for you right now. Um, well, ultimately, let, let me, and I'll tell you, it was happening. We created the greatest economy in the history of our country. And the other side was trying -- You know -- you know that's not true. It is totally true. No. Best unemployment numbers, best employment numbers. 106 million people working. Highest stock market price. You wouldn't say that to Biden, what you just said to me if he had it, if he had it, you would never say that to Biden. We had the best stock market price ever. And we're getting close to that price again. We had the best, everything was the best. Our companies were doing better than they've ever done before. You cannot even think about talking about that. Well, I don't, I'm not gonna fact check you. You know, I'm not gonna do that. You don't have to fact check me. I mean, excuse me. The stock market was at it's highest. The unemployment numbers for African Americans, for Asian Americans, for Hispanic Americans, for everybody were the best. Every number, virtually every number was the best. We had the best economy ever and what was happening is, things were coming together. W -- well, I asked you what your single biggest priority was. No, I'm, I'm gonna say that. Oh. And the other side was starting call, let's get together. There was going to be unity. And then we got hit with the plague and we had to do it again. And we closed it up and I saved millions of lives, millions of lives we saved. And now the economy is growing again at record numbers. 11.4 million people employed in the last short periods of -- What is the priority? I mean, those are all -- The priority now is to get back to normal. Get back to where we were. To have the economy rage and be great with jobs and everybody be happy. And that's where we're going and that's where we're headed. And who is our biggest foreign adversary? I would say China, they're an adversary. They're a competitor. They're a foe in many ways, but they're an adversary. Uh, I think what happened was disgraceful. Should never have happened. Should, they should never have allowed this plague to get out of China and go throughout the world. 188 vectors, should never have happened. So they're, so -- Lesley, one second please. We found one that should do it. What's wrong? The, the flag is wobbly I think because it's under the vent perhaps behind you. His hair smoothed down a little bit. Um, we're mediating it, right? It doesn't look nice blowing in the background? No, it's distracting. Hello? Yes, turn the air off. I think we got it guys. I'm, I'm going with or without you guys. It's, it's not moving. Let's go. Okay. At this stage four years ago, you were behind in the poles as you are now and you pulled it out. But this time you have kind of a double migraine. You have unemployment claims going up, you have COVID cases going up. I mean, it's like the gods have suddenly decided, decided to conspire against you. I don't think so at all, no. Well, what -- I think we've done a great job with COVID. And we've hired -- Yeah, but the numbers are going up. Excuse me, 11.4 million people. Why, because the last report was a little bit, just a little bit off. And this is for that? No, sir. Excuse me, cases are up in about 40 states. Okay. You know why cases are up also? Because we do more testing. If we didn't do testing, cases would be way down. Yeah, but why are you saying they're not up? You know well, pe -- You're saying things that people [Crosstalk] Uh, no, no. What I'm saying to you, Lesley is the following. We do more testing than any country in the world by far. Second is India with 1.5 billion people. We do more testing. If we did half the testing, we'd have half the cases. If we did no testing, like many countries, we would have very few cases. Because we do such much testing, the fake news media loves to say cases are up. The fact is we've done a very, very good job. Cases are [Crosstalk] We have done -- That's right, because we're doing so much testing. But cases -- Will you at least say cases are up? Yes, cases are up because we are doing tremendous testing. And we're finding where there's a problem. Testing is a good thing, but it's also very misleading. When you're out there saying, "We've turned the corner. This thing is disappearing." That's right. We have turned -- And people can see -- -- [Crosstalk] corner. We have turned [Crosstalk] -- People can see -- -- corner. -- cases going up all over the, in the Midwest, in the Mountain West, record numbers of cases in some states. We have turned a corner. We understand the disease. We understand the elderly, and we're taking of them at a level like nobody's ever taken care of the elderly, especially the elderly with diabetes problems, heart problems. We are taking care of them like nobody's ever taken care of 'em. We also understand youth. 99.9% -- As an example, Baron had it. And it was gone in no time. It was just [Inaudible] he had it. It was gone, hardly even knew he even had it. So, we are taking care of our people. But uh, we've done a great job with the ventilators, with the equipment, with stocking governors that were not stocked. We've made a lot of governors look very good that shouldn't look good. And that's okay with me. Okay. Let me, let me ask you something about suburban women. Yeah. You said the other day to suburban women, "Can you please like me? Please [Crosstalk]" Oh, I didn't say that. You know, that's so misleading the way -- I say jokingly, "Suburban women, you should love me because I'm giving you security. And I got rid of the worst regulation." See, the way you said that -- Yeah. -- is why people think of you and everyone else as fake news. I said, kiddingly, "Suburban women, women, you should love me. I got rid of a regulation that would -- You said [Crosstalk] -- that would bring low income housing into suburbia that is destroying -- That would destroy suburbia." And I said that in a joking way. The way you have it is like, "Oh -- " Like I'm begging. I'm, I'm kidding. Play it, and I'm kidding. That is such a misleading question, Lesley. But you're behind with suburban women in the polls. I doubt it. I doubt it. I really doubt it. None of the [Crosstalk] I'm saving suburbia. He's gonna destroy suburbia. He's got a regulation, which I terminated, that he would put back, and even worse, that will destroy -- That will bring low income housing projects into suburbia. And women understand that. And they really learned about it over the last two, three weeks. I terminated the worst regulation you could possibly have. It's gone. And suburban women appreciate it. They want security. They want safety. Look, I've been endorsed by almost every police department, almost every law enforcement group in the country. He's been endorsed by almost nobody. Suburban women want security. But the polls show that you're behind [Crosstalk] Nuh-uh. And one reasons [Crosstalk] You're not looking at recent polls. One of the reasons is that they don't feel you're being upfront about the pandemic. And when you say -- [Crosstalk] -- "We're, you know [Inaudible] we're rounding the corner" [Crosstalk] We are rounding [Crosstalk] We are rounding [Crosstalk] [Crosstalk] deliberately like to downplay this. We are rounding the corner. [Crosstalk] We're rounding the corner. We're doing well. We're doing well. We understand the disease. I saved millions of people. You know, 2.2. million people were supposed to die. You go back and you look at your models, models, 2.2 million people. We saved tremendous numbers of people. Plus, I closed it very early from China, heavily infected, and even from Europe, heavily infected. We've done a good job. We've maybe a great job. What we haven't done a good job on is convincing people like you because you really quite impossible to convince. But that's okay. And the economy, now, is coming back. And it's coming back very strongly. And people see that, Lesley. There are more unemployment claims, and the economy has kind of s -- stalled [Crosstalk] Lesley, we just picked up 11.4 million jobs. It's the largest number in the history -- [Crosstalk] -- of our country in a short period of time. I mean, how, how -- Lesley -- -- [Crosstalk] ignore that? [Crosstalk] We just picked up 11.4 million jobs it's, in a short period of time. It's the largest number in the history of our country. Well [Inaudible] are you denying that unemployment claims have gone up [Crosstalk]? What I'm saying is we got hit by something. It's not my faul --Not your fault. We got hit from something that came out of China. I got stuck with it, and let me tell you, before it happened we were doing so good, and now we're going to be doing, and we are, we are doing good. But -- Well -- Look at, look at as an example, last week, a few days ago, Gallup did a poll, 56 percent of the people said that they're better off now, during a pandemic, than they were doing Obama and Biden. 56 percent. It was a record number. Right? Yes, but I want to know if you're, if you're, what? Ignoring the fact that there are unemployment claims -- No, I don't ignored anything. Okay, well what, what, what are you saying? Well, what I'm saying is that we got hit with somebody, it's not our fault, we got hit. I know, but what is -- And we've done a good job. Not a good job, we've done a great job. Remember that number, a very important number. 56 percent say they're happier now than they were four years ago under Biden and Obama. Right? I'll put his name first. Biden and Obama. And they didn't have the pandemic, although Biden did have a big problem with H1N1, which he says in reverse. With the H1N1 Swine Flu, and it was a disaster. And his own Chief of Staff said it was a total disaster, they didn't know what they were doing. But, can we go back for one second to the pandemic? Because, um, you called Doctor Fauci, and other health officials, "idiots." And I'm wondering -- I'm wondering if you think -- Doctor Fauci -- Where did I call -- Where did I call him that name? Wh -- I'm wondering if you think -- Where did I call him an idiot? You called them idiots. I wonder if you think -- Well, he's been wrong a lot. I like him, but he's been wrong. I, I wonder if you think that masks don't work? Because Doctor Fauci said -- Well, Doctor Fauci originally said -- Well, it's a very complex subject. But what do you say? Do you say masks don't work? Well, let me just tell you. You mentioned Doctor -- Doctor Fauci said, "Don't wear masks." Then he said, "Well -- I -- What do you say? I say that -- I -- I feel masks possibly work, but certainly you want to stay away, a certain distance, socially distance, etcetera. But, I would say a mask works, and I have nothing against masks, and I tell people to wear masks. I don't have a problem. Well tell me then about these rallies you've been having. The people -- A lot of people are wearing masks, and they're outside. A lot of people aren't. I -- I'm watching all these people jammed in together and I'm seeing most of them without masks, and I'm wondering the message that you're sending with these pictures coming up on social -- Take a look. Yesterday we were in Arizona, record setting rallies, numbers of people like nobody's seen before. Many, many, masks. I watch -- You say [Inaudible] rallies. What? You, you used to have bigger rallies. No, these are much bigger than I ever had. I don't want to [Inaudible] all of that. Tell me about the masks then. You know, you, you're so negative. These are the biggest rallies we've ever had. You just come in here with that negative attitude. These are the biggest rallies that we've ever had. [Crosstalk] We are having numbers like we've never had. Tell me about the masks. There is more -- Excuse me, no, but you made a statement. There's more enthusiasm right now for us then we ever had before, ever. And you will see that in a short period of time. Well, what about the masks? A lot of people are wearing masks. I mean, I looked yesterday, a lot of people were, and it's outdoor. They want it outdoor and we're doing it outdoor. But I can't believe after what happened in the Rose Garden, here, after the announcement with all the people getting sick. Yeah. That you are not being more strongly encouraging about wearing masks to your rallies. I am. I tell people to wear masks. No you don't. Lesley, we handout thousands of masks, and if we -- But you look out, and they're not wearing them, and you don't say, "Please put on your mask." Well, have you been looking? Yesterday, take a look at, uh, take a look yesterday in Arizona. Everybody behind me had a mask. But I'm looking at other places. I'm looking at Wisconsin, which is a hotspot. Right, right. A lot of people had masks and it was outside. A lot of people without masks and you don't get up there and say, "Look," you know, "come on, I don't want you to get sick." Okay, but I -- What's your, what's next question, Lesley? We're outside, the rallies are bigger than they've ever been, there's more enthusiasm than we've ever had. There has never been anything like what you're witnessing now, and you'll see that soon. Okay, but I'm asking you about masks, not about the size of your rallies. I'm asking if wearing masks -- You commented on the size of the rallies. I know, but I'm asking you -- You said they're not as big as they used to be, and I'm telling you they're much bigger. Okay, but I'm asking you now about the masks. Why aren't you getting up there and saying, [Crosstalk] "I had it. I don't want you to get it, so please put your mask on." Lesley, we handout masks to everybody that comes to the rally. We tell them to wear their masks. And you don't, and they love you, and they -- Oh, I don't know, Lesley. I tell them wear them. If they heard you saying -- I have no problem, no problem. They love you, they would [Crosstalk] Next question? Enjoy it. Go on. Anything you said Uh -- I hope you're right. All right. Okay. Um, this is -- Okay. I'll ask you another health question. Okay? Right Um, you promised that there was gonna be a new heath package -- Healthcare plan. Yeah. You said that it was gonna be great, you said that it's ready, it's gonna be ready -- It will be -- it's all ready. It'll be here in two weeks, it's gonna be like nothing you've ever seen before, and of course we haven't seen it. So why didn't you develop the healthcare -- It is developed. It is fully developed. It's going to be announced very soon, when we see what happens with Obamacare, which is not good. When we see what happens with Obamacare. But if the Supreme Court -- And it will be much less expensive than Obamacare, which is a disaster. And it will take care of people with pre-existing conditions. But your plan was to repeal and replace, and if the Supreme Court finishes Obamacare, there will be all these people stranded -- No there won't. Because there's no replacement deal. We will make a deal. And we will have a great healthcare plan. But you keep saying that. With less expensive -- A less expensive and a much better plan. Why haven't we seen it? You have seen it. I've been putting out pieces all over the place. And we actually have plans. And we have 180 million people, right now, have a plan. And you haven't been watching. You haven't been watching. But what about the pre-existing people with pre-existing conditions? If the Supreme Court -- I'll protect it. We'll be totally protected. How? They'll be protected, Lesley. How? How? The people with pre-existing conditions -- How? -- are going to be protected. How? As they are now. How? In any plan we do -- But the [Crosstalk] -- they will be protected. Lesley, people with pre-existing conditions will be always protected. Always. But if -- If the Supreme Court ends this, Obamacare, um -- Well, we'll have to see what happens. It's got a ways to go, I mean, we'll see what happens. I think it'll end, uh -- I think -- I -- I hope that they end it. It'll be so good if they end it. But if they end it -- Because we will come up with a plan which will be a -- You won't. Yeah we will. But you said it would already -- We have large sections of it already done. And we've already come up with plans, take a look at your various secretaries, various plans that we've already come up with. And also, you know, a large part of this country has private health insurance. Yes. 180 million people. And under that -- Biden, he doesn't have any clue, but under that 180 million people will lose their healthcare. And a load of socialized medicine. And that's not gonna be acceptable. Okay. 180 million people, Lesley, will go to socialized medicine. It won't be -- It will not be acceptable. And if the Affordable Care Act is determined to be unconstitutional -- Then we're gonna have a new, and we're gonna have new, and it's gonna be very good. And it's gonna -- You keep saying that and don't show it to us. And so people with pre-existing conditions -- We've come up with many plans, Lesley. And we have -- They're already in existence. If -- I'll tell you what, after this interview I will show you short-term, longer-term -- I'll show you different plans. We've come up with many plans. And we've got the individual mandate act -- You know the individual mandate is done. That was the worst part of Obamacare. That's the -- Okay, I -- All of that, I grant you. All of that. But is -- If there's no plan -- A replacement plan -- Right And the Supreme Court says that Obamacare goes away, people with pre-existing conditions will be stranded. Nuh-uh. And that's just a fact. It's wrong. No. It's wrong. A new plan will happen. But will -- And we will do anything -- Will, and is. We will do anything and no plan unless we have pre-existing conditions covered. And the individual mandate, which you don't want to mention, was terminated. It was terminated. Individual mandate was terminated. That is the biggest thing that's happened, and that actually makes Obamacare not Obamacare. Because under that, you would pay a fortune for the privilege of not having to pay for bad health insurance. We got it terminated. Terminated, through the legislation. Signed. Done. That means Obamacare is no longer Obamacare. We got rid of the most important element of Obamacare, and it was the worst element of Obamacare that nobody wanted, nobody liked. So Obamacare essentially was terminated as we know it. Now, we have the carcass of Obamacare. Well, part of the carcass is pre-exist -- We've managed it well. Lesley we've managed it well -- know I -- a choice to make, when we -- rid of these individual mandate, nobody believed we could that -- I -- it -- had a choice to make, do I manage -- remainder of whatever's left of this whole thing called Obamacare, which is no good, do I manage it well or manage it badly? If I manage it well, meh, politically maybe that's -- good. What is it -- want to [Crosstalk] I decided to manage it well. Do -- want to leave -- I mean [Crosstalk] probably would. No, I don't wanna leave -- I wanna -- what happens. Here's what happens -- Well -- why -- leave it? We -- be stuck with it if we lose in -- Supreme Court, in which case we're wasting a -- of words. If we win, we will come up with a much -- we will do that, come up with a much better healthcare -- much less money. Always protecting people with pre-existing conditions. Um -- you gonna -- that -- didn't -- this? Because I -- you -- this on television. Go ahead -- you're, you're only trying to -- I wish you, I wish -- would interview -- Biden like -- interview -- It would be so good -- know what? You make this so far. I -- my response. [Crosstalk] I don't remember. I don't remember -- when I watch -- walk -- of a store, he's in -- midst of a scandal -- family is corrupt, okay? He's corrupt, he's a corrupt politician -- he's walking with an -- cream -- the question -- media asks him, "What kind of -- cream? What flavor -- cream do -- have?" And, he's in -- midst of a scandal. He is not. And, he's taking -- of course he -- Lesley. He's not -- Come on. Of course he -- See that -- You know -- had -- Senate -- Republicans -- So -- like, you're like, you're like -- Tech, you're protecting -- and everyone -- except -- a -- people. [Crosstalk] No, you're exaggerating. You're, you're taking something that -- investigated by a Republican committee -- Lesley -- me ask -- me -- you -- think it's okay -- the Mayor of Moscow's wife to give -- millions -- millions of dollars, three -- a half million dollars, to give -- family from there. Do -- think it's okay -- Hunter Biden to say, to -- that we're giving, we're giving -- big -- 10% of this massive amount of money that they're taking -- Do -- think it's okay -- all of these horrible things that you've seen where they're getting hundreds of thousands -- millions of dollars, where China gives them a billion -- a half dollars to manage -- family. A billion -- a half dollars -- then he's supposed to negotiate -- me tell you. It's -- biggest scan -- second biggest scandal -- biggest scandal -- when they spied on my campaign. They spied on my campaign, Lesley. There's no e -- evidence of that. Of course there -- it's -- over -- place. No. Lesley, they spied on my campaign -- they -- caught. Sir, can -- I -- something -- know, this is 60 Minutes -- we can't -- on things we can't verify. You won't -- it on because it's -- for Biden. We can't -- on things we can't verify. Look -- me tell you. Lesley, they spied on my campaign. But we can't verify it. It's been totally verified. No. It's been, just go down -- get -- papers. They spied on my campaign. They -- caught. No. And then they went much further than that -- they -- caught -- you will -- that, Lesley -- you know that -- you just don't want to -- it on -- air. No, a -- as a matter of fact, I don't know that. Okay. And you're -- there -- So -- don't -- get back to your interview -- let's go. I'll move -- all right -- so -- said in -- briefing room, nobody likes -- I can, it -- only be my personality. I said that jokingly. That is sarcastic. Nobody likes -- it must be my personality. I -- it -- the time. Nobody likes -- it must be my personality. I -- it -- the time, Lesley. Do -- think that your tweets -- your name calling -- turning people off? No, I think I wouldn't be here if I didn't have social media because -- media is -- corrupt. [Crosstalk] In my opinion -- media is corrupt. But, but -- I know, when -- were talking -- The media is fake -- frankly, if I didn't have social media -- have no -- of getting -- my voice. You know what -- told me a long time -- when I asked -- you keep saying fake when -- were here -- said to -- "I -- that because I need to dis -- discredit you, so that when -- say negative things about me no -- will believe it." I don't have to discredit you. That's what -- told me. You've discredited yourself. You told me that. Lesley, you've discredited yourself. When -- say that you're -- gonna cover Biden, you're gonna -- him what flavor -- cream he has, okay. That's -- news. Instead -- why -- Hunter -- three -- a half million dollars from Moscow? Instead -- why is an energy company paying your -- $183,000 a month or whatever they're paying -- and he -- not experience in energy -- know -- discredit yourself. I don't have to discredit you. So, so this story about Hunter -- his laptop. Some repair shop found -- The source is -- Steve Bannon -- Rudy Giuliani -- you're making this -- I don't know anything about that. I just know it's a laptop -- they have -- seven -- And you're making this one of the hottest, most important issues in [Inaudible] And I -- I don't know about in the general election -- This is the most important issue in the country right now -- It's a very important issue, to find out whether or not [Crosstalk] a man screw up who's running for President? Who's accepted money from China [Crosstalk] and from Ukraine, and from Russia? All he's saying -- Yeah, I think that's an important issue. -- has been investigated and this, a -- It's incredible the way you can try and say this, and sit there and look me in the eye, and say -- A Republican committee -- -- He accepted monies, his family, from Russia, from Ukraine, from China, and from other places. And a Republican -- -- His brother, who didn't have experience became a big builder in Iraq, without experience. Take a look at what's going on, Lesley, and then, you say how that shouldn't be discussed. I'm saying -- It's the biggest scandal out there, Lesley. -- And you think it's the biggest issue to campaign that. I think it's a s -- I think it's one of the biggest scandals I've ever seen. And you don't cover it. Biggest sc -- You want to talk about -- -- Well, because it can't be verified. [Crosstalk] You wanna talk about -- I'm, I'm telling you -- -- insignificant things. I'm telling you -- Of course it can be verified. [Crosstalk] Excuse me, they found the laptop. Lesley, listen -- It can't be verified. What can't be verified? The laptop. Why do you say that? Because -- Even the family hasn't -- -- the laptop -- -- The family, on the laptop, he's gone into hiding. For five days, he's gone into hiding. He's preparing for your debate. Well, it's taking him five days to prepare? I doubt it. I do. Okay. All right. So let's get back to the main part. Okay? And, uh, and whether you think it's turning people off. No, [Inaudible] look, it is what it is. We're all Biden's students. Where are we sitting, ma'am? What are -- Where are we sitting? In the Roosevelt Room. Of what? Of the White House. That's right. And how did I get here? How did I get here? We're in the White House. And what are you saying? Oh, what, by name calling? You think that that -- [Crosstalk] No, I'm not name calling. By, you know, doing the right thing. And, we've, we had a great record. I mean, we got hit by a Pandemic, wasn't my fault. But, it wasn't. It was China's fault. But, but, Lesley -- The reason -- -- We're in the White House. The press is very bias. Very, very bias. And, and I'm not talking about -- You're trying to discredit us -- No. Yes. No, I'm not discred -- You're discrediting yourselves, Lesley. No, you are. Lesley, you're discrediting yourself. When you don't go after Biden, when, with the corruption in the Biden family -- Why are you questioning me about going after Biden? You've asked me five, six -- When you don't -- -- seven times. -- When you don't go after, uh, what happened in the Russia Witch Hunt, which turned out to be a total phony, with no collusion. No collusion whatsoever. When you don't do that, you discredit yourself. The press, you know, is highly discredited right now. You do know that? So, you're discrediting yourself. Half -- Half the country loves you. But the other half doesn't. And I'm wondering why you just -- They were starting to Lesley. When the economy was, prior to the, just prior to the, you know, the, to the plague, they were starting to really like -- We were all starting to like each other. It was coming together. There was going to be a lot of s -- I've heard -- -- unification. -- you say that, before. And I don't think it was coming to that -- And I'm just telling you. -- I think we've had disunity -- People were calling me -- -- Un, unfortunately -- -- People were calling me about coming together. And then we got hit by the plague, and now we're rebuilding it again, and starting new. And are you, do you think that you do anything to unify the country? I do. I think I do unify the country. I think I will unify the country. It's called success. Where our country becomes, again -- What about the rabid partisanship in the country? Let me as -- Do you take any responsibility for the country being divided against itself. Do you feel that? I'd like not to, but, you know, perhaps everybody has to take a little responsibility for it. But when people put out phony witch hunts, you know, when they fight in your campaign, you have to fight back. And if you don't fight back, you're not sitting here very long, you go back home. I'm, I -- You go back home to mommy. I'm, I'm s -- I'm, I've been listening to you for however long we've been here, and it's just attack, attack, attack, attack, attack. I don't think so. I mean, look, I, I -- You know, it's not attack. It is. It's defense. It's defense -- No, I -- -- against attacks. No, you've been attacking. You've been -- It's defense against attacks. You're, you're very [Inaudible] -- I don't think so. I mean, I don't view it that way. I'm defending myself, and I'm defending the Institution of The Presidency. Very important, I think. Can, can you, um -- Hi, Mike. Are you having a good time on that [Inaudible]? You know that I do. You know, Mike? Go ahead. -- our great Vice President? I do. You think she'd ask questions like this of, uh -- Huh. Wow. -- uh, I don't think so. [Crosstalk] You'd think she asks questions like this in general? Can you, um, can you um characterize, uh, your supporters? Can you -- Yeah, I think I can. People that love our country. And people that don't want to see the stores get looted and burned down, and people that don't want to see riots, and they don't want to see anarchists. Yeah, I think I can. And -- These are people that love our country -- You might -- And they don't like to see -- If you don't see -- They don't like to see policemen get shot and not be able to defend themselves. They don't like to see rioting in the middle of fifth avenue or in the middle of other streets in Portland, or other places. And they like it when their president gets the endorsement of virtually every police group and frankly, almost everybody having to do with law and order. Positive law and order. But you know what they are? They're people that love our country. More than anything else. And they like to see our country thrive. But do you think that when you hold rallies and encourage people to say lock her up [Crosstalk] I don't encourage them, they say it. And you [Crosstalk] Hilary Clinton deleted, she deleted 33,000 emails after she got a subpoena from the United States government. Wh -- why does, why does -- No, no that's illegal. I know, but why -- Why somebody doesn't do something about it -- [Crosstalk] But Why is this still an issue? I -- I-[Crosstalk] To me it's an issue. She [Inaudible] last time. Excuse me, when they say lock her up, it's not me. They say it. It starts. It ends up being -- You encourage it. I don't encourage it. Yes you do. No, if I mention her name about something, they go crazy. Well what about the governor of Michigan, who had had this plot that pe -- people were gonna [Inaudible] I don't know anything about [Crosstalk] the plot but I can tell you I'm tellin you about the plot. It was our justice department that is the one that's helping her. [Crosstalk] My justice department if you call it that. [Crosstalk] It was our justice department that's helping her. And, you know, people aren't so -- they're not liking her so much cause she's got everybody locked down. Now we just won the supreme court where [Inaudible] The only one she doesn't have locked down is her husband, who went sailing and did things that he wasn't supposed to be doing. You are very powerful. And the people who love you, love you with a passion. And if you go after somebody, like you've been going after her -- I haven't gone after her. They take it to heart and they, there are plots and threats and the same [Crosstalk] You did? I've helped her. [Crosstalk] It was our justice department that's helping her.[Crosstalk] You criticized her. Well I do criticize her, yeah. Well that's [Crosstalk] I think the way she locked down Michigan is a disgrace. [Crosstalk] The way she closed churches in Michigan is a disgrace. Yeah, I think it's disgraceful. What she's done. I do. You want to lock her up? And by the way that's other -- of course not. That's other, that's other governors also. They happened to be democrats. And they've closed up their states and they're posing a lot of problems with these lock downs. Suicide, drugs, alcohol. A lot of bad things are happening, and they should open up their states. Carefully, but they should open up their states. Well when you say open up, you don't say carefully. You say open up. You're not, you don't have -- Oh I say -- You don't have an aggressive program to say open up with masks. Open up with social distancing. The governors run their states. No but the message comes from you. We help them a lot. But the governors run their states. You are the -- And the governors have to do what they have to do. But you -- But when they lock down Michigan, she's doing a tremendous disservice. Well what about you saying -- Same thing with Pennsylvania, same thing with North Carolina What about, what about you saying -- These are democrat governors and they're doing a great disservice. What about you saying let's open up but let's wear masks. [Crosstalk] You don't. I'm saying, I'm not against masks at all. But you're not for them. I say sure I am. Wear em. Wear em. But I also say socially distance. I say all things. I -- you know what, well, look, with you, nothing I said would be any good Lesley. That's not true Mr. President. It's okay. That's not true. But in the meantime, we're having a record government, because if you look, we're the fastest growing nation in the world after this pandemic. By far. And we sunk less than any other nation relevantly speaking and we're coming back very strong. Very, very strong. So you, you don't want to lock up governors. [Crosstalk] You want to lock her up. Obama -- When did I say lock her up? When did I say lock up the governor? I didn't say lock up the governor. All right. But you [Crosstalk] Why would I lock her up? Why would you say "You don't wanna lock up the Governor"? Of course I don't wanna lock her up. Why would I lock her up? 'cause you were in front of a lot of people and saying [Inaudible] I never said it Lesley. I never said lock up the Governor. So you don't wanna lock the Governor up? Lesley, that's such a vicious thing you just said. I didn't say lock up the Governor's [Inaudible] I would never say that. Why would I say that because she's doing lock downs Well do you -- what about the Biden -- do you wanna lock up the [Inaudible] No, I don't wanna lock 'em up. The certainly should be looked at. Do you wanna lock up Obama [Crosstalk] No I don't wanna lock him up, but he spited my campaign. Obama and Biden spited my campaign. Do you know what that is? Do you know what they did? Do you know how horrible it is what they did? [Crosstalk] Do you know, do you know -- But it's never been verified. It's been very verified Lesley. You'll find out. But it's been totally verified. Um [Inaudible] Oh he probably will, because I think he's a very dishonest guy. And he probably will look for something, probably will, you'll see. But you know what, Attorney General Barr has been very honest, that's all I can tell you. He's been very nice. He's been very respectful. But you criticized him. He's been very -- I didn't criticize him, it's just a different personality. They're very lucky. They're very lucky. 'cause the evidence is overwhelming, and Attorney General Barr is a great gentleman. He's a great gentleman. They are very lucky. You know I I can't tell you what's gonna happen, I don't know. I -- Because I'd purposely like to stay out of it. You know what, i don't like to get inv -- I can if I want, but I don't like to get involved. But I think they've been very very lucky. Attorney General Barr is a gentleman. You know I I didn't want to have you kind of [Crosstalk] Of course you did. No I didn't. Yes you did. You've brushed a lot of subjects that -- No I said you're going to answer a couple of questions that -- Were inappropriately presented. Right from the beginning. Your first question was this is going to be tough questions. Well -- when you started the int -- your first statement was -- Which president -- don't you think you should be accountable for Excuse me, no no no, listen, your first statement to me "This is gonna be tough questions". No. I don't want that. When you set up the interview you didn't say that. You said "Oh let's have a lovely interview." And and here's what I do say, you don't ask Joe Biden -- I saw your interview with Joe, the interview with Joe Biden. I never did a Joe Biden interview. It was a joke. The interview, 16 minutes. I see Joe Biden getting soft ball after soft ball. I've seen all those interviews. He's never been asked a question that's hard. Okay that [Inaudible] No, but you started with me, excuse me Lesley you stared with me, your first statement was "Are you ready for tough questions?" That's no way to talk. No way to talk. Lesley one one second here here. Uh this is the first warning I think we have. I think it's until we have the [Inaudible] is that all right? Yeah. I think we have enough. Yeah we had enough of the interview. Well I think [Inaudible] I think we've had enough of the interview here. Okay that's enough. Let's go. Let's go. Infa -- uh let's go meet for two seconds okay? Thanks. I'll see you. Thanks.