Donald Trump met with reporters for while en route from Washington D.C. to Houston. Cameras and audio recordings were not permitted. Parts were on-the-record, other parts off-the-record. Please bear this in mind when evaluating the information. The below is from Eli Stokols, Los Angeles Times, who was a pool reporter on the plane You pardoned someone? Only because, only because of I felt from I don't know him, I never met him, I called him last night first time I've ever spoken to him I said I'm pardoning you. Nobody asked me to do it. I've always felt he was very unfairly treated. And a lot of people did, a lot of people did. What should have been a quick minor fine, like everybody else with the election stuff….what they did to him was horrible. I always felt that he was … I didn't know him. I read the papers – I see him on television. I'll tell you another one … there's another one that I'm thinking about. Rod Blagojich. 18 years in jail for being stupid and saying things that every other politician, you know that many other politicans say. And If you look at what he said he said something to the effect like what do I get … stupid thing to say. But he's sort of saying .. he's gonna make a US senator which is a very big eal. And it was foolish … 18 years now. I don't know him other than that he was on The Apprentice for a short period of time. 18 years is I think really unfair. It's a Democrat. You know D'Souza's a Republican. And I'm seriously thinking about it. I am seriously thinking about – not pardoning – but I am seriously thinking of a curtailment of Blagojvich. [Not captured, reporter uses the word commutation] Reporter provides the word commutation. Because what he did does not justify 18 years in a jail. If you read his statement it was a foolish statement there was a lot of bravado... but it does not... plenty of other politicians have said a lot worse. And it doesn't, he shouldn't have been put in jail. And he's a Democrat. He's not my party. But I thought that he was treated unfairly. Trump said he spoke to D'Souza for three minutes last night... he almost had a heart attack. And there are others. I think to a certain extent Martha stewart was harshly and unfairly treated. And she used to be my biggest fan in the world … before I became a politicna. But that's ok I don't view it that way.