Transcript - Press Conference: White House COVID-19 Response Team Holds a Briefing - February 22, 2021 | Factba.se

Andy Slavitt

00:00:00 - 00:00:30 ()

I'm starting today on a solemn note as we're nearing 500,000 Americans who've lost their lives from COVID-19. To mark this grim milestone, this evening, the President and First Lady, along with the Vice President and Second Gentleman, will hold a moment of silence in a ceremony at sundown to honor those who have lost their lives to this pandemic.

Andy Slavitt

00:00:30 - 00:00:59 ()

Everyone lost is someone whose life and gifts were cut short. Our hearts go out to all of those who are grieving loved ones who are so deeply missed. For those of us in the administration, the occasion makes us more determined to turn the tide on COVID-19 so the losses can subside and the healing can begin.

Andy Slavitt

00:00:59 - 00:01:30 ()

The President has asked us to use every possible resource to make that happen. On Friday, I provided an overview of how the extreme weather had impacted our vaccination efforts. And today, I want to give an update on our progress to recover. That progress began as soon as the weather began to improve, thanks to an all-out, round-the-clock effort from our teams and partners.

Andy Slavitt

00:01:30 - 00:02:03 ()

McKesson ran extended shifts Saturday and Sunday to pack vaccines, and members of the military joined them in their efforts. Seventy McKesson employees volunteered to work 1:00 a.m. shifts Saturday night, Sunday morning to prepare shipments to meet an 11:00 a.m. transit deadline. On Sunday, UPS extended its onsite trailer time at the McKesson facility in Kentucky to allow them to pack hundreds of thousands more doses.

Andy Slavitt

00:02:03 - 00:02:31 ()

Thanks to that and many more, those efforts, today alone, we plan to deliver 7 million doses. This is a combination of catch-up from last week's doses that were delayed from the weather and doses going out as a normal part of today's normal distribution. I reported on Friday that we would catch up on deliveries by the end of this week.

Andy Slavitt

00:02:31 - 00:03:10 ()

We now anticipate that all backlog doses will be delivered by midweek. But delivering doses to administration sites is, as we know, only the first step. Sites around the country have a significant job ahead of them to quickly vaccinate the public. It will take some time for those sites to catch up. We encourage vaccination sites to follow that same lead of those who are working extended hours to catch up on deliveries by scheduling more appointments to vaccinate the anxious public as quickly as possible.

Andy Slavitt

00:03:10 - 00:03:41 ()

There are still vaccination sites closed from today's -- from the storm's impact. Texas's seven-day average of administered COVID-19 doses decreased by 31 percent in the past week due to winter weather impacts. Some Houston-area vaccination clinics and testing sites have now reopened. Austin Public Health does not believe reopening is safe at this time but announced that when operations resume, they will include extended hours and additional locations.

Andy Slavitt

00:03:41 - 00:04:06 ()

Next, I want to begin to turn to our efforts to educate and communicate with the public about the importance of vaccinations. After all, today's challenge of vaccinating those who are waiting must be accompanied by an equally aggressive effort to reach people who are considering getting vaccinated but haven't yet decided to.

Andy Slavitt

00:04:06 - 00:04:50 ()

We are so fortunate to have highly effective vaccines and safe vaccines, which makes the conversation with the public a much more straightforward one. So let me tell you a little bit about the three stages of our approach to communication: For the last month, we've been in the first stage of this work. That first stage has entailed a significant number of activities: listening to the public's concerns, hearing from experts, testing how different audiences react to different methods of communication and different messengers, and ensuring that we can provide clear answers that the public deserves.

Andy Slavitt

00:04:50 - 00:05:15 ()

Today, we begin a second and more public stage: engagement with key stakeholders. The COVID team has begun meeting on an ongoing basis with state and local health leaders, nonprofits, businesses, and unions about the pandemic. We've held more than 100 one-on-one discussions with these groups and we'll continue this engagement throughout the response.

Andy Slavitt

00:05:15 - 00:05:50 ()

Now, to continue to inform our efforts around vaccine confidence, over the next two weeks, the White House, along with CDC and HHS, will host a series of listening sessions with key stakeholder groups. These meetings will be led by Dr. Nunez-Smith, who is leading our equity work. These conversations will focus on how to strengthen vaccine confidence and how to eliminate barriers that underserved communities are facing to vaccinations, like paid leave, transportation, and scheduling.

Andy Slavitt

00:05:50 - 00:06:19 ()

The meetings are kicking off today with a conversation with key leaders in the African American community. And throughout the week, we'll be meeting with Latino groups, faith leaders, and members of the rural community. These listening sessions will continue our effort to hear directly from communities who've been hit hardest by this pandemic and help us build strong partnerships with those who will be key to our efforts to build vaccine confidence and reach everyone in our response.

Andy Slavitt

00:06:19 - 00:06:43 ()

As a part of this effort, beginning today through Wednesday, CDC is hosting a National Forum on Vaccines, where they're bringing together thousands of participants from around the country -- from practitioners to jurisdictions to others working on the ground -- to discuss practical strategies, technical resources, and best practices for vaccination efforts.

Andy Slavitt

00:06:43 - 00:07:18 ()

In a moment, Dr. Walensky will discuss this. All of that continues our work on not only a whole-of-government response, but to leverage the best existing resources outside of government to end this pandemic as quickly as possible. And our third phase -- the public education campaign -- will be timed for maximum effectiveness and designed based on both our learnings and take full advantage of the participation of many throughout the country.

Andy Slavitt

00:07:18 - 00:07:26 ()

So with that update, I will turn it over to Dr. Walensky and then, from there, to Dr. Fauci. And then we'll take your questions.

Rochelle Walensky

00:07:26 - 00:07:47 ()

Thank you, Andy. I'm glad to be back with you today. We continue to see trends head in the right direction, but cases, hospital admissions, and deaths remain at very high levels. COVID-19 in the United States has been declining for five weeks, with the seven-day average dropping 74 percent since the peak seven-day average on January 11th.

Rochelle Walensky

00:07:47 - 00:08:15 ()

The current seven-day average -- approximately 66,000 cases per day -- is similar to that seen during last summer's peak: Cases remain significantly elevated. And the seven-day average for new hospital admissions -- 6,500 a day -- reflects a 60 percent decline since the peak seven-day average on January 9th, the lowest seven-day average in new hospital admissions since last fall.

Rochelle Walensky

00:08:15 - 00:08:50 ()

The number of reported deaths also continues to decline, with the seven-day average slightly more than 1,900 deaths, dropping 39 percent compared to the prior seven-day average. This is the lowest since the beginning of December. However, this seven-day average is counterbalanced by the stark reality that this week we will surpass one half million COVID-19 deaths in the United States -- a truly tragic reminder of the enormity of this pandemic and the loss it has afflicted on our personal lives and our communities.

Rochelle Walensky

00:08:50 - 00:09:12 ()

While the pandemic is heading in the right direction, there is still much work to do. One area that is particularly important is getting students back to in-person instructing -- instruction, while protecting teachers, students, and staff. A little more than a week ago, we released our Operational Strategy for opening K-through-12 schools.

Rochelle Walensky

00:09:12 - 00:09:39 ()

This strategy provides the long-needed, science-based roadmap to help schools open safely and remain open for in-person instruction. Since the release of this strategy, we have been working closely with the Department of Education, public health partners, and education partners, including teachers and other school staff, to increase awareness of the guidance and to support its use in ongoing discussions and planning efforts for school reopenings.

Rochelle Walensky

00:09:39 - 00:10:12 ()

The goal is to achieve the reopening of schools safely. In addition, we continue to study COVID-19 spread in schools to identify the factors that contin- -- that contribute to outbreaks and steps that can help prevent spread in schools. Today, CDC published a concerning report in the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report that details an investigation of COVID-19 spread in eight public elementary schools in a single school district in Georgia during a period of high community spread.

Rochelle Walensky

00:10:12 - 00:10:37 ()

In the report, researchers identified nine clusters of COVID-19 cases involving 13 educators and 32 students of at least six elementary schools. In two of these clusters, COVID-19 was spread first from educator to educator, and then from educator to student. These two clusters accounted for half of all the school-associated cases.

Rochelle Walensky

00:10:37 - 00:10:59 ()

Across the nine clusters, educators played an important role in the spread of COVID-19 in the schools. COVID-19 spread often occurred during in-person meetings or lunches and then subsequent spread in classrooms. COVID-19 was also spread from student to educator and from student to student, but this occurred less frequently.

Rochelle Walensky

00:10:59 - 00:11:28 ()

The two main reasons for the spread of COVID-19 in these schools were inadequate physical distancing and mask adherence. In the schools, physical distancing of at least six feet was not possible because of the high number of students in class, as well as because of classroom layouts. In addition, COVID-19 may have spread among educators and students during small group discussions where educators were in close proximity to students.

Rochelle Walensky

00:11:28 - 00:11:48 ()

Although the school district mandated in-classroom mask wearing except while eating and mask wearing was reportedly high, the study found that there were instances where lack or inadequate mask wearing by students occurred. In these situations, lack of physical distancing likely increased the risk of spread.

Rochelle Walensky

00:11:48 - 00:12:16 ()

In addition, students ate lunch in their classrooms, which may have also contributed to spread. These findings underscore the importance of strict mask adherence to the five key layered mitigation strategies outlined in the CDC's K-12 Operational Strategy. In particular, universal mask wearing, physical distancing of at least six feet, and using cohorting or podding of students are important to minimize spread throughout the school environment.

Rochelle Walensky

00:12:16 - 00:12:48 ()

This is especially true for schools that have high rates of COVID-19 in their community. As we have noted, distancing requirements, which we recognize are very challenging, can be relaxed as school -- as community rates come down. It's also worth noting that approximately 60 percent of close contacts of the cases agreed to be tested for COVID-19. And for those who weren't tested, testing took five to seven days -- a delay that makes it incredibly difficult to rapidly contain spread.

Rochelle Walensky

00:12:48 - 00:13:22 ()

These findings highlight an additional key mitigation strategy recommended in CDC's school guidance: the need for diagnostic testing, and rapid and efficient contact tracing, in combination with isolation and quarantine, in collaboration with the health department. The findings also highlight the importance of scaling up vaccination efforts across the country, including the continued need to prioritize teachers and other school staff for vaccination as part of the frontline essential workers, consistent with the recommendation of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices.

Rochelle Walensky

00:13:22 - 00:13:51 ()

CDC's Operational Strategy specifically includes vaccination for teachers and school staff as an additional layer of protection that can be added to the five key layered mitigation strategies. Finally, I want to emphasize that while CDC's Operational Strategy does provide for in-person instruction during all levels of community spread, the safest and quickest way to open schools and keep them open is to have as little COVID-19 in the community as possible.

Rochelle Walensky

00:13:51 - 00:14:17 ()

Enabling schools to open and remain open is therefore a shared responsibility. Encouragingly, consistent with the recent declines in COVID-19 cases in the United States, the percentage of counties with the highest level of COVID-19 transmission continued to drop, declining from approximately 90 percent, when we released our school guidance about 10 days ago, to 60 percent, as of yesterday.

Rochelle Walensky

00:14:17 - 00:14:40 ()

Now, approximately 18 percent of counties have COVID-19 levels at the low or moderate levels with -- that's consistent with full in-person learning for all K-12 schools in CDC's guidance. And 22 percent are at the substantial level, consistent with hybrid learning or reduced in-person attendance for all K-12 schools.

Rochelle Walensky

00:14:40 - 00:15:01 ()

For the 60 percent of counties that remain in the red zone -- the counties with high transmission -- we encourage at least the K-5 students to return to school in hybrid or reduced in-person attendance, and for middle and high school schools virtually only -- unless they can strictly implement mitigation measures and have few cases.

Rochelle Walensky

00:15:01 - 00:15:28 ()

Schools that are already open should continue to provide in-person instruction, as long as cases are low and they strictly use mitigation measures to keep them low. I hope these findings serve as a catalyst to each of us to continue to do our part to drive down the number of cases and reduce the spread of COVID-19. I know this is not easy, and so many of us are frustrated with the disruption the pandemic has had on our lives and our children's education.

Rochelle Walensky

00:15:28 - 00:15:52 ()

But working together as a nation, we can turn the tide. Finally, I want to share some news about our virtual National Vaccine Forum that kicked off this morning. I'm excited to share that we have over 11,000 participants from 6,000 organizations across all 50 states, nearly all territories, and 128 tribes and tribal organizations.

Rochelle Walensky

00:15:52 - 00:16:17 ()

Over the next three days, these participants will share information and best practices on how to build trust and confidence in COVID-19 vaccines, use data to optimize vaccine implementation, and provide practical, real-world experience on how to increase vaccination capacities in our communities. I encourage each of you to watch the livestream plenary session throughout the day and get engaged in your community vaccination efforts.

Rochelle Walensky

00:16:17 - 00:16:34 ()

Before I turn to Dr. Fauci, I want to reiterate to everyone to continue to do your part to protect yourselves and each other by wearing a well-fitting mask, staying six feet apart from the people you do not live with, avoiding travel and crowds, washing your hands often, and getting vaccinated when the vaccine is available to you.

Rochelle Walensky

00:16:34 - 00:16:39 ()

And now I will turn it over to Dr. Fauci. I look forward to your questions. Dr. Fauci.

Anthony Fauci

00:16:39 - 00:17:04 ()

Thank you very much, Dr. Walensky. I'm going to talk for a few minutes today. I'm updating you on where we are on some selected therapeutics for COVID-19. So if we can move ahead to my first slide. In general, when one thinks of therapeutics, you think of them as therapeutics for early or moderate disease versus therapeutics for moderate-to-advanced disease.

Anthony Fauci

00:17:04 - 00:17:40 ()

Clearly, the strategy early on is to block the replication of virus and prevent it from going from the upper airway to the lungs and other organ systems. However, we have found, through experience over the past many months, that when one gets advanced disease, the hyper or aberrant inflammatory or immunological response gives as much to the morbidity and mortality as the actual virus replication itself.

Anthony Fauci

00:17:40 - 00:18:10 ()

And in that regard, a variety of drugs have been tested. One, such as remdesivir, has gained FDA approval. Its effect is clear but modest. hen regard to getting early intervention, monoclonal antibodies, both from Lilly and from Regeneron, have received emergency use authorization. Here again, the earlier one uses these, the better.

Anthony Fauci

00:18:10 - 00:18:38 ()

These are as efficient and more efficient in those individuals who don't necessarily have a good antibody response. The same can be said of convalescent plasma, which has also earned an emergency use authorization -- again, because of the variability in the titer of antibody in various plasma concentra- -- excuse me, plasma aliquots.

Anthony Fauci

00:18:38 - 00:19:04 ()

The issue here is getting this as early as possible. There have been a number of trials of a variety of antivirals or other agents that are off the shelf that have not been targeted. I'll get to targeted intervention in just a moment. And then hyperimmune globulin is also in clinical trial. And we await the results of all of these.

Anthony Fauci

00:19:04 - 00:19:41 ()

With regard to therapeutics for advanced disease, as I mentioned, that is generally aimed at blocking an aberrant inflammatory or immunological response, as well as other pathogenic mechanisms, which are not necessarily that well understood. We have dexamethasone -- a drug approved for many, many, many years -- as the standard of care for advanced disease, particularly people in the hospital on respirators and/or requiring high-flow oxygen.

Anthony Fauci

00:19:41 - 00:20:47 ()

Baricitinib and remdesivir have earned emergency use authorization, and a number of immunomodulators, including those that block a variety of cytokines and cytokine receptors, are currently in clinical trials. Can I have the next slide? The bottom line of what we need to do looking forward and the clear need in this is the development of potent antivirals directly acting on SARS-CoV-2, very similar to what was done with the highly successful drug development program for HIV, as well as for hepatitis C. And what I refer to is the future development of therapeutics will be based on the identification of vulnerable targets in the SARS-CoV-2 replication cycle and the design of drugs to inhibit these vulnerable targets.

Anthony Fauci

00:20:47 - 00:21:27 ()

As I mentioned, we are beginning this, and this is going to be the direction of the future. I want to point out to the group that the NIH, in April, put together a Treatment Guidelines Panel that is a living document of clinicians and people involved in the care of SARS-CoV-2-infected individuals, who analyze the literature as well as the now very common pre-print literature and updated in -- meaningfully, in very frequent intervals.

Anthony Fauci

00:21:27 - 00:22:14 ()

It is a living document. As I mentioned, there are 47 voting members of this. And since this was put online in April of 2020 -- easily accessible by COVID19TreatmentGuidelines.nih.gov -- there have been over 11 million hits to this. The reason we feel this is important -- and I want to, again, bring it to everyone's attention -- is that it is an easy way to get experienced clinicians to analyze data that's already in the literature, as well as data that is in pre-print form, and involved in just clinical experience.

Anthony Fauci

00:22:14 - 00:22:47 ()

It has been very advantageous to clinicians not only in the United States, but worldwide. And if I can have the next slide. Finally, I want to just bring to your attention something that the FDA has done today in having a press briefing, I believe, at 1:30. I want to bring it to your attention because although they delineated the aspects of it, I want to make sure everyone is aware of the very important work that the FDA is doing.

Anthony Fauci

00:22:47 - 00:23:34 ()

And that is, they are guiding the medical product developers by updating their guidelines on how they address the virus variants. And the products involved that are impacted by this updated guidance are vaccines, COVID-19 tests, and therapeutics. Why is this important? It is very clear that we are faced right now, and will be in the future, with variants that are already present, and that with all of the immunologic and other pressures that are going on and the high degree of replication throughout the world, that there will be the selecting of a variety of variants.

Anthony Fauci

00:23:34 - 00:24:01 ()

We ourselves in this country are already facing variants that are having impact, such as the UK variant. We have this -- the South African variant in our nation. And we're even having the evolution of variants within our own country. With regard to vaccines, the FDA outlines the scientific recommendations for the modification to authorized vaccines.

Anthony Fauci

00:24:01 - 00:24:28 ()

In other words, we have vaccines that are out there that are highly efficacious. The manufacturers of these are going to want to know how they can address and modify their vaccines to address the ongoing evolution of variants. And we expect the manufacturing recommendations to remain the same. And the effectiveness is going to be determined by immunogenicity studies.

Anthony Fauci

00:24:28 - 00:25:03 ()

In other words, likely not have to prove efficacy in a large study. The same holds true for COVID-19 test. The updated guidelines describes the FDA's activities to better understand the public health impact on the variants and the impact on the test performances, and provide recommendations to the developers of these tests regarding the future genetic mutations and what they need to do when designing or modifying their existing tests.

Anthony Fauci

00:25:03 - 00:25:42 ()

And finally, the same holds true for therapeutics, both drugs and biologics. The FDA will provide recommendations on the efficient approaches -- how to generate data that potentially could support an EUA for monoclonal antibody products that might actually be effective against emerging variants, which obviously will be an issue because we already know particularly that the South African variant is, in fact, obviating the effect of several of the monoclonal antibodies that people have developed.

Anthony Fauci

00:25:42 - 00:26:10 ()

And former guidances on therapeutics will also be updated to address the evolving landscape of the COVID-19 drug development, again, in the context of emerging SARS-CoV-2 variants. In summary, the FDA will give guidance to how these companies can address a problem that we know is with us already and that will be a problem in the future.

Anthony Fauci

00:26:10 - 00:26:13 ()

I'll stop there. And back to you, Andy.

Andy Slavitt

00:26:13 - 00:26:22 ()

Thank you, Dr. Fauci, Dr. Walensky. Let's take a few questions.

Operator

00:26:22 - 00:26:31 ()

Great. And if you haven't raised your hand yet, you can go ahead and do that, and that's how we can select you. First off, we'll go to Katherine Eban at Vanity Fair.

Question

00:26:31 - 00:27:07 ()

Thanks so much for having this briefing; it's very helpful. My question is: What is the Biden administration's policy for vaccinating federal employees? How are they prioritized? And a few other add-on questions. Do you know if the Biden administration's policy contrasts with that of the Trump administration, regarding who was vaccinated when?

Question

00:27:07 - 00:27:24 ()

And in the -- in looking for -- accounting for the missing doses of vaccine, have all of the doses that have been administered to federal employees been accounted for? Thank you.

Andy Slavitt

00:27:24 - 00:27:52 ()

Okay, multiple parts of that question. I'll do my best to answer. As it respects to federal employees, what I can tell you is that the federal government is following the ACIP guidelines. And if you'd like more detail or if you have more specific detailed questions on aspects of federal employees, frontline workers, versus others, we will follow up with you and answer those questions.

Andy Slavitt

00:27:52 - 00:28:06 ()

When you say "missing doses," can you clarify what you're referring to, please?

Question

00:28:06 - 00:28:39 ()

Yeah, Dr. Walensky had spoken some time ago about vaccine doses that could not be accounted for, and there was a question of whether that was due to a lag of reporting from the states to Tiberius. And my question is: Have all of the doses that have been used for federal employees been fully accounted for?

Question

00:28:39 - 00:28:43 ()

And is there somebody whose job it is to track that?

Andy Slavitt

00:28:43 - 00:29:04 ()

So -- so, look, I -- and, Dr. Walensky, you can comment after me if you'd like. But I believe what you're referring to is a comment made some number of weeks ago, right after we arrived here. At that point in time, when we arrived here, about 46 percent of the vaccines that had been distributed to states had been administered.

Andy Slavitt

00:29:04 - 00:29:29 ()

And so I think what Dr. Walensky was saying is: We have a whole lot of vaccines that have been delivered that need to now be administered. Now, today, that number is about 80 percent. So we were at 46 percent, and now we're at 80 percent. And we applaud the states and the vaccinators and everyone involved in improving that effectiveness.

Andy Slavitt

00:29:29 - 00:29:46 ()

So I don't think -- and again, I will invite Dr. Walensky to, of course, correct me if I'm wrong -- that she was referring to quote, unquote, "missing vaccines"; simply that we needed to get the vaccines that had been delivered to be administered more effectively and more equitably. Dr. Walensky?

Rochelle Walensky

00:29:46 - 00:29:55 ()

Yeah, I don't have much to add. I think when we came into the administration, we had to make sure we didn't follow all the paths and where all the doses were, and I think we've done so, just as you commented.

Andy Slavitt

00:29:55 - 00:29:59 ()

Thank you. Next question.

Operator

00:29:59 - 00:30:05 ()

Next we'll go to Chris Megerian at Los Angeles Times.

Question

00:30:05 - 00:30:25 ()

Hi, everyone. I was interested in your thoughts on the messaging around the vaccines. There's a lot of conversation about how you need to keep doing the same things even after you get vaccinated -- you know, like wearing a mask, not seeing your family, things like that. Do you think that's preventing people from being more enthusiastic about getting vaccines?

Question

00:30:25 - 00:30:28 ()

And may we see that change in the future?

Andy Slavitt

00:30:28 - 00:30:40 ()

Well, I'm going to invite both Dr. Walensky and Dr. Fauci to comment on that, and then -- you know, and then I will as -- I will as well, if there's anything to add.

Anthony Fauci

00:30:40 - 00:31:05 ()

Yeah, I -- actually, let -- I'll start -- well, whatever. [Laughs] I'll start off and be very brief and hand it to Dr. Walensky. There are certain aspects of being vaccinated -- and what that means to you personally and your own personal safety and that of your family -- versus what vaccines will allow you to do in society.

Anthony Fauci

00:31:05 - 00:31:27 ()

One relates to you, yourself, being vaccinated, and the other relates to the number of people and the relative percentage of people in society that will be vaccinated, because there will be things that you will not be able to do because the burden of virus in society will be very high, which it is right now.

Anthony Fauci

00:31:27 - 00:31:51 ()

Even though we're going way down on the decline that Dr. Walensky showed you, we are still at an unacceptably high baseline level with a seven-day average being quite high. So there are things, even if you're vaccinated, that you're not going to be able to do in society: for example, indoor dining, theaters, places where people congregate.

Anthony Fauci

00:31:51 - 00:32:39 ()

That's because of the safety of society. You, yourself, what you can do when you are together with another person, we are looking at that, and we're going to try and find out very quickly what recommendations could be made about what people can do. One of the things that's universal here that we know: that at this point in time, it is unclear whether when you get vaccinated and you might be protected from clinical disease, which is the primary endpoint of the vaccine studies, that you could conceivably be infected, have virus in your nasopharynx, and at that same time have no symptoms, which is the reason why we recommend and say you still need to wear a mask.

Anthony Fauci

00:32:39 - 00:33:01 ()

Because if you do have virus in your nasopharynx, even though we hope that when the data comes in, it's going to show that the virus level is quite low and you're not transmitting it, we don't know that now. And for that reason, we want to make sure that people continue to wear masks despite the fact that they're vaccinated.

Anthony Fauci

00:33:01 - 00:33:04 ()

So, Dr. Walensky, why don't you add to that?

Rochelle Walensky

00:33:04 - 00:33:23 ()

Great. Thank you. I will say we've already started to come out with some guidance that demonstrates the difference if you've been vaccinated versus if you haven't. So, for example, if you've been exposed and you've been fully vaccinated -- two doses -- there is no longer a need to quarantine after you've been exposed.

Rochelle Walensky

00:33:23 - 00:33:51 ()

So we are starting to emerge with some guidance in this area, and more will be forthcoming. I would echo exactly what Dr. Fauci said. We are working on rolling out a lot of vaccine to a lot of people, and yet we still have a lot of disease -- 66,000 cases a day. So what we might be proposing, in terms of guidance, will really likely be at the individual level and not at the community level.

Andy Slavitt

00:33:51 - 00:34:14 ()

And let me just follow up, to make a broader point. The broader point that Dr. Fauci and Dr. Walensky both alluded to is this: The scientific team, the President -- as the scientific team, including prominently Dr. Fauci and Dr. Walensky -- are very much working together on those sets of recommendations.

Andy Slavitt

00:34:14 - 00:34:45 ()

And I think it is in our interest to make sure they release information based on data, not on -- to your -- the tenet of your question -- trying to convince the public of something that isn't necessarily based on data. I think that you will hear that consistently from this administration. I will tell you that people are interested in taking the vaccine in large numbers for the same reason people are interested in taking the vaccine for MMR and for the flu: because they want to live.

Andy Slavitt

00:34:45 - 00:35:10 ()

They don't want to be sick and they don't want to die. And that is a very important benefit that people don't often talk about quite as much but that the public, we believe, clearly understands. So beyond that, what we're able to do as a society -- the scientific team is going to continue to study based upon prevalence, based upon vaccination levels, and based upon the data, and we'll come out with more.

Andy Slavitt

00:35:10 - 00:35:28 ()

And there are plenty of commentators outside of the government that are, of course, expressing their own views and their own opinions. And so I think that's -- that's a part of the discourse, but it's not one that this -- that we are going to jump into too hastily. Next question.

Operator

00:35:28 - 00:35:32 ()

Next, we'll go to Erin Banco at the Daily Beast.

Question

00:35:32 - 00:35:53 ()

Hey, there. Thanks so much for doing this. I have two questions for you all. The first question is about issues surrounding the CDC vaccination tracker. A lot of state officials that we spoke to over the past couple of weeks were dissatisfied with how their state was being reflected in that vaccine tracker.

Question

00:35:53 - 00:36:01 ()

I want to know if there have been any steps to clear up that data, whether those concerns have been dealt with, and what the issue was there.

Andy Slavitt

00:36:01 - 00:36:03 ()

Rochelle Walensky

00:36:03 - 00:36:15 ()

Yeah, thank you for that. We are actively working on the vaccine tracker. We recognize there are challenges in rolling it out, and we are working to fix them imminently.

Question

00:36:15 - 00:36:44 ()

Great. Thanks so much. My second question is: We hit the 500,000 mark today, or I guess late last night. Some officials and health experts have said that we are almost certainly undercounting COVID-19 deaths in this country. I wonder if any of you could speak to that and whether -- or how confident you are in whether, you know, more than 500,000 people have died as a result of COVID-19 in this country.

Question

00:36:44 - 00:36:54 ()

And I also haven't seen a mortality study done yet since the pandemic began. Is that going to happen? And when that might be published? Thanks.

Andy Slavitt

00:36:54 - 00:36:57 ()

Rochelle Walensky

00:36:57 - 00:37:17 ()

Yeah, I mean, I think we can -- even if -- even if we were perfectly precise in how we defined COVID-19 early on as we were learning about the disease and we were accurate in our counting, I think we can sort of understand that there has been excess mortality from this pandemic outside of COVID-19 specifically.

Rochelle Walensky

00:37:17 - 00:37:48 ()

So people who delayed in getting medical care -- many, you know, delayed in coming in. So I think that when history writes this, we will understand that the mortality related to this pandemic is far greater than the numbers that we have been counting for numerous reasons. There have been numerous mortality studies that have been done, and I'm certain there will be more forthcoming because we are continuing to accumulate mortality, unfortunately.

Andy Slavitt

00:37:48 - 00:37:50 ()

Okay, next question.

Operator

00:37:50 - 00:37:52 ()

Last question will go to Maggie Fox at CNN.

Question

00:37:52 - 00:38:14 ()

Thanks very much. Can I ask about the Johnson & Johnson vaccine? If it wins emergency use authorization, what are the plans for distributing the initial supply? Have you got a number in mind for how many doses you think you'll have? And will they go to the states? Will they go to retail pharmacies? Will they go to some of these independent retail pharmacies?

Question

00:38:14 - 00:38:17 ()

Can you talk a little bit about what your plans for that are?

Andy Slavitt

00:38:17 - 00:38:45 ()

So I think we're going to wait on that until after the FDA does its work and then after the ACIP does its work, all consistent with our philosophy of letting the science go first. Once we understand what the scientific community has to say, we will then be in a position to answer, I think, the very relevant questions that we need scientists' advice on.

Andy Slavitt

00:38:45 - 00:39:01 ()

And again, this is the President's directive to let science lead, and then we will rapidly follow that up with a strategy, both distribution and targeting and otherwise, that reflects that. Dr. Walensky or Dr. Fauci, is there anything you want to -- you would add to that?

Anthony Fauci

00:39:01 - 00:39:25 ()

No, that's precisely correct. It's very important, because the FDA is going over the data very, very carefully. They're meeting with their VRBPAC, and that, in the data, there may be hints about just how this would be used most appropriately and most effectively. When we find that out, then the policy of the distribution would become much more scientifically based, as Andy has said.

Rochelle Walensky

00:39:25 - 00:39:33 ()

And then, right on its heels will be the ACIP from the CDC to, sort of, give some guidance as to how it should be rolled out.

Question

00:39:33 - 00:39:41 ()

Can I just follow up a bit though? Do you have any idea of how many doses there will be? The science isn't guiding that. You know whether they're manufacturing and where they are in that.

Anthony Fauci

00:39:41 - 00:39:41 ()

Andy Slavitt

00:39:41 - 00:39:42 ()

Anthony Fauci

00:39:42 - 00:40:07 ()

No, they're -- it's -- they've been contracted for 100 million doses, which we will hopefully get by the end of June, the beginning of July. The rollout of that -- there will not be a lot of doses right on the heels of EUA, but that will accelerate as we get into the months towards the contractual arrangement of when 100 million doses will be given.

Andy Slavitt

00:40:07 - 00:40:30 ()

Yeah. And we'll be speaking to that also. But, again, we're going to wait for the FDA and the ACIP to do their work, and then I commit to you, you'll be hearing a lot more, presuming that the EUA is granted. And we're not, of course, going to take anything for granted, but presuming that that happens, I commit to you, you'll be hearing a lot more about all those topics.

Andy Slavitt

00:40:30 - 00:40:59 ()

I want to take the opportunity again to thank you for listening in to the briefing and, on this solemn day, to encourage you to watch the President's remarks this evening with the Vice President, the First Lady, and the Second Gentleman to remember the 500,000 people that we've lost. And we will look forward to bringing you more information later in the week, of course.

Andy Slavitt

00:40:59 - 00:41:01 ()