Transcript - Remarks: Joe Biden Delivers Remarks on the Economy - November 16, 2020 | Factba.se

Kamala Harris

00:00:00 - 00:00:44 ()

Good afternoon. President-elect Biden and I just met with some of our nation's business and union leaders. Together they represent millions of workers across our country and some of America's leading technology, auto, and retail companies. We had an important conversation about the impact that this pandemic has had on workers, especially essential workers, front-line workers who have risked their own health and the health of their families, and many who have given their own lives to keep us safe and keep our economy running.

Kamala Harris

00:00:44 - 00:01:23 ()

And we all know that this pandemic and this recession have hit communities of color particularly hard. Black Americans and Latinos are three times as likely to contract COVID as others and more likely to die. Native Americans are more than four times as likely to be hospitalized as others, and last month the unemployment rate for black Americans was almost twice the rate of others; and we have also had a conversation about the impact this pandemic has had on our economy as a whole from the Fortune 500 to the small businesses that so many communities rely on.

Kamala Harris

00:01:23 - 00:01:41 ()

Over the past few months on the campaign trail, the president-elect and I saw that impact firsthand. In state after state, we met with workers to share their struggles and told us about their pain, essential workers who have had to stay on the job even as they worry about their families' well-being and their own.

Kamala Harris

00:01:41 - 00:02:03 ()

Small business owners who are dipping into their own savings to make payroll and keep their doors open and many others who have had to close their doors and fear never reopening at all. Their stories have stayed with us, and the president-elect and I are focused on building our country back better for them and all Americans.

Kamala Harris

00:02:03 - 00:02:31 ()

And as I said the night we won this election now is when the real work begins, the necessary work, the good work of getting this virus under control, saving lives and beating this pandemic and opening our economy responsibly while rebuilding it so that it works for working people and we will do it by protecting the health and safety of our workers and creating millions of good-paying union jobs from auto and construction jobs to domestic workers and caregiving jobs to service and hospitality jobs.

Kamala Harris

00:02:31 - 00:02:48 ()

The road ahead it will not be easy, but the president-elect and I are hitting the ground running because we all know the challenges facing America today are great, the American people deserve no less, and we don't have a moment to waste, and now it is my incredible and great honor to introduce our president-elect Joe Biden.

Joe Biden

00:02:48 - 00:03:06 ()

Thank you very much. Good afternoon. Vice President Harris and I, as she indicated, just met with a group of America's top business leaders and labor leaders, and I must tell you it reinforced what I thought from the beginning, ready to come together, and the unity was astounding. I want to go back and talk about the people who actually participated in that.

Joe Biden

00:03:06 - 00:03:32 ()

I'm going to list all of the people just so you know we spoke with. Number one, there was Mary Barra, CEO of General Motors; Brian Cornell CEO of Target; Mr. Nadella, CEO of Microsoft; Murray Gamble, Rory Gamble, president of the UAW; Mary Kay Henry, president of SCIU; Marc Perrone, president of the UFC -- UFCW; Lee Saunders, president of AFSCME, and Sonia Syngal, President of GAP, Richard Trumka, president of the AFL-CIO.

Joe Biden

00:03:32 - 00:03:47 ()

It was really encouraging, quite frankly, to get people business and labor together agreeing on the way forward, which I'm convinced the American people are willing to do when they hear what we have in mind, and I'm very pleased that they all came together around this same table to advance areas of common ground and we agreed we are going to continue these conversations.

Joe Biden

00:03:47 - 00:04:04 ()

They represent very different perspectives, but I'm convinced that we can all come together around the same table to advance areas of common ground which are really I wish you could have all heard the conversation it was really encouraging, and that is what we were ready to discuss today. We all agree that we want to get the economy back on track.

Joe Biden

00:04:04 - 00:04:23 ()

We need our workers to be back on the job by getting the virus under control. We are going in a very dark winter things are going to get much tougher before they get easier and that requires sparing no effort to fight COVID so we can open our businesses safely, resume our lives and put this pandemic behind us.

Joe Biden

00:04:23 - 00:04:45 ()

It's going to be difficult, but it can be done, and they all agreed that means rallying the country behind a national strategy with robust public health measures like mandatory masking, widely available testing with rapid results, scaled-up production of life-saving treatments and therapeutics, and safe, equitable and free distribution of the vaccine.

Joe Biden

00:04:45 - 00:05:21 ()

It's great news that Moderna and Pfizer have each come up with vaccines that are in excess of 90 percent effectiveness, and getting a vaccine and a vaccination, though, are two different things. Everyone on our call today in our Zoom today agreed that the greater we have access to the administration's distribution plan, the sooner this transition would smoothly move forward, and you know, as we battle COVID, we make sure that business and workers have the tools, the resources, the national guidance and health, and safety standards to operate safely and we can do that.

Joe Biden

00:05:21 - 00:05:46 ()

We can bring Democrats and Republicans together work with business and labor to deliver those necessary resources and for millions of Americans who have lost hours in wages or have lost their jobs we all agreed on our call that we can deliver immediate relief and it need be done quickly. Affordable healthcare for millions of people who have lost it or in danger of losing it, childcare, sick leave, family leave, so workers don't have to choose between work and family.

Joe Biden

00:05:46 - 00:06:05 ()

Corporate America agreed on this today that folks on the call we need support of small -- to support small businesses and entrepreneurs that are the backbone of our communities but are teetering on the edge, and we all agreed on the urgent need for funding for states and localities to keep front-line workers and essential workers on the job.

Joe Biden

00:06:05 - 00:06:24 ()

Vital public services running law enforcement offices, educators, first responders like we did in the Recovery Act of 2009, saving literally millions of jobs. There's a reason why the federal government is able to run a deficit because the states must, must balance their budgets, and they are in real trouble.

Joe Biden

00:06:24 - 00:06:48 ()

You are going to see hundreds of thousands of police officers, firefighters, first responders, mental health clinics; you are going to see them going out of business. Right now, Congress should come together and pass a COVID relief package like the HEROES Act that the House passed six months ago. Once we shut down the virus and deliver economic relief to workers and businesses, then we can start to build back better than before.

Joe Biden

00:06:48 - 00:07:11 ()

We talked about how we have an opportunity to come out of this stronger, more resilient than we were when we went in, and I wish you could have heard corporate leaders and the major labor leaders singing from the same hymnal here. Throughout the campaign, I laid out my build back better plan we laid out our plan that an independent analysis put up by Moody's, a well-respected law -- law -- Wall Street firm projected it would create 18.6 million jobs.

Joe Biden

00:07:11 - 00:07:31 ()

We can also -- we talked about the need to own the electric vehicle market. We talked about climate a lot, building 550,000 charging stations, creating over 1 million good-paying union jobs here at home, the need for federal government to invest more in clean energy research. You know it's based on a simple premise it's time to reward work, not just wealth in America.

Joe Biden

00:07:31 - 00:07:49 ()

We're going to have a fair taxing structure that makes sure that the wealthiest among us and corporations pay their fair share. Our plan will create millions of good-paying union jobs and manufacturing, building the vehicles, products, technologies that we are going to need for the future to compete with the rest of the world from autos to our stockpiles we are going to buy American.

Joe Biden

00:07:49 - 00:08:05 ()

No government contract will be given to companies that don't make their products here in America. To secure our position as the global leader in research and development, we're going to invest $300 billion in the most critical competitive new industries in technology, creating 3 million good paying jobs.

Joe Biden

00:08:05 - 00:08:25 ()

And the corporate American technology firms like Microsoft on the call, they all agreed. We can make sure our future is made here in America, and that's good for business and it's good for American workers. We can also modernize infrastructure, roads, bridges, ports, 1.5 million new affordable housing units.

Joe Biden

00:08:25 - 00:08:50 ()

High-speed broadband we talked about for every American household, which is more important than ever for remote learning, remote working, telemedicine in the 21st century, building digital -- building a digital infrastructure to help businesses, healthcare workers, first responders and students, $100 billion to rebuild our crumbling schools.

Joe Biden

00:08:50 - 00:09:33 ()

They talked about the need -- the business community talked about the need to invest in HBCUs and community colleges, retrofitting 4 million new buildings -- our old buildings, retrofitting them, making them new, weatherizing 2 million homes, building more climate resilient cities and towns. These investments will specifically target communities of colors so we can break the cycle where in good times they lag and in bad times they get their first -- get hit first and the hardest, and in recovery it's the toughest bounce back.

Joe Biden

00:09:33 - 00:09:58 ()

These are the kinds of investments that are going to strengthen our economy and competitiveness, create millions of jobs, union jobs. And in doing so, I'll respect the dignity of work and empower the voice of workers. You've heard me say it's before. My dad, when he lost his job in Scranton, eventually moved to Wilmington and he got a good job.

Joe Biden

00:09:58 - 00:10:22 ()

He'd say, Joey, a job's about a lot more than a paycheck. It's about your dignity, respect, your place in the community. It's about being able to look your kid in the eye and say, honey, everything is going to be okay. When we build back better, will do so with higher wages, including a $15 minimum wage nationwide, better benefits, stronger collective-bargaining rights that you can raise a family on.

Joe Biden

00:10:22 - 00:10:47 ()

That's how we build back the middle class better than ever. That's how we make sure workers are treated with the dignity and respect they deserve. I can go on. You can tell I was very encouraged by our conversation, but the point is this. There's so much we can do. The only way we do any of this is if we work together.

Joe Biden

00:10:47 - 00:11:29 ()

I know we can do this. For example, on the call I made it clear to the corporate leaders, I said I want you know I'm a union guy. Unions are going to have increased power. They just nodded. They understand. It's not anti-business. It's about economic growth, creating good paying jobs. 11 years ago when Barack and I took office during the great recession and implemented the Recovery Act that saved us from another Great Depression, we didn't see a map in red and blue states.

Joe Biden

00:11:29 - 00:11:47 ()

It was the United States of America. We didn't care whether the city had voted for us or against us, the state voted for us or against us. We worked with everyone, and we recovered and rebuilt together as one nation. We can do this again. The refusal of Democrats and Republicans to cooperate with one another is not due to some mysterious force beyond our control.

Joe Biden

00:11:47 - 00:12:22 ()

It's a conscious decision. It's a choice that we make. If we can decide not to cooperate, then we can decide to cooperate. I believe this is, in part, the -- the mandate from the American people, part of the mandate they gave us. They want us to cooperate. They want us to deliver results, and the choice that Kamala and I will make is that we're going to do that.

Joe Biden

00:12:22 - 00:12:42 ()

That's why I'm so pleased today we were able to bring together business and labor leaders to make the choice jointly with us for all Americans. Now, let's get to work. As I've said many times, thank you. May God bless you and may God protect our troops. I understand now I'm going to take some questions.

Joe Biden

00:12:42 - 00:12:44 ()

Megan, fire away.

Question

00:12:44 - 00:12:48 ()

Thank you, President-Elect Biden, Vice President-Elect Harris.

Joe Biden

00:12:48 - 00:12:53 ()

Looking the wrong direction. Sorry.

Question

00:12:53 - 00:13:13 ()

Good to see you. I want to start with a question about your pandemic planning and then a question about your economic plan. You -- you spoke about the need to access the outgoing administration's COVID vaccine distribution plans. What do you see as the biggest threat to your transition right now, given President Trump's unprecedented attempt to obstruct and delay a smooth transfer of power?

Joe Biden

00:13:13 - 00:13:40 ()

More people may die if we don't coordinate. Look, as my Chief of Staff Ron Klain would say when we handled Ebola, a vaccine is important. It's of little use until you're vaccinated. So, how do we get the vaccine, how do we get over 300 million Americans vaccinated? What's the game plan? It's a huge, huge, huge undertaking to get it done, prioritize those greatest in need and working our way through, and also cooperate with the World Health Organization and the rest of the world in dealing with this.

Joe Biden

00:13:40 - 00:14:00 ()

And so, they say they have this Warp Speed program that the -- not only dealt with getting vaccines, but also how to -- how to distribute this. If we have to wait until January 20th to start that planning, it puts us behind over a month, month and a half. And so, it's important that it be done, that there be coordination now, now or as rapidly as we can get that done.

Question

00:14:00 - 00:14:21 ()

On the economy, the vice president-elect talked about having an economy that works for working people. One thing I didn't hear you talk specifically about is canceling student loan debt. Does student loan forgiveness figure in your plan? Would you take executive action to achieve it?

Joe Biden

00:14:21 - 00:14:40 ()

It does figure in my plan. I've laid out in detail, for example, the -- the legislation passed by the Democratic House calls for an immediate $10,000 forgiveness of student loans. It's holding people up. They're in real trouble. They're having to make choices between paying their student loan and paying their rent, those kinds of decisions.

Joe Biden

00:14:40 - 00:15:02 ()

It should be done immediately. In addition to that, as you know, I think that everything from community college straight through to doubling Pell Grants to making sure we have access free education for anyone making under $125,000 for four years of college. And there is a program that exists now under the law that forgives student loan for being able to engage in -- their engaging in public service.

Joe Biden

00:15:02 - 00:15:18 ()

I'm -- I'm going to institute that fundamental change in that so it is able to be available to everyone that in fact is engaged. It's not being very well managed right now. So, I'm going to do all of those things. Thank you.

Question

00:15:18 - 00:15:44 ()

Thank you, Mr. President-Elect. You just spoke some of the dangers of the president's continued stonewalling of this transition, but it doesn't appear that the president is going to come around anytime soon and admit defeat. So, what are you going to do? What options do you have to try and ensure that you are ready to go on day one?

Joe Biden

00:15:44 - 00:16:07 ()

Deal with every individual, organization in the country from business to labor, Republicans and Democrats, to try to pull together a serious and consistent plan so we're ready on day one, everything from staffing to ultimately naming cabinet members to moving along on coordinating with business and labor, the COVID attack, how we're going to attack COVID.

Joe Biden

00:16:07 - 00:16:31 ()

And so, it would make it a lot easier if the president were to participate. We have a number of Republicans suggesting that -- the good news here is my colleague is still on the Intelligence Committee so she gets the intelligence briefings. I don't anymore, so that -- that is -- but there's a number of Republicans calling for that.

Joe Biden

00:16:31 - 00:16:35 ()

I -- I am hopeful that the president will be mildly more enlightened before we get to January 20th.

Question

00:16:35 - 00:16:46 ()

And what is your message to Republicans who are backing up the president's refusal to concede? You clearly need to work with them going forward.

Joe Biden

00:16:46 - 00:17:15 ()

My message is I will work with you. I understand a lot of your reluctance because of the way the president operates, but I -- I've been in contact with and will be in contact with more of them as we move along. And if it has to wait until January 20th to get -- to actually become operational, that's a shame but it may be the -- maybe that's the only way to get it done.

Joe Biden

00:17:15 - 00:17:18 ()

Thank you very much.

Question

00:17:18 - 00:17:41 ()

Thank you very much, Mr. President-Elect. And I want to kind of piggyback off of that. I want to get your thoughts on the president's tweet over the weekend where he first seemed to acknowledge that you won. Then he said he won't concede. Then he said I won. How did you interpret that? And at the end of the day, do you want him to concede?

Joe Biden

00:17:41 - 00:18:10 ()

I interpret that as Trumping-ism, no change in his modus operandi. And I think the pressure will continue to build. Look, I'm having a lot of meetings with world leaders on -- on the telephone I can get into negotiating with them about things that are going to be done but they are calling with some degree of enthusiasm everyone from a holy father to prime ministers across the globe and so we are moving along knowing what the outcome will be and as I said earlier and I probably shouldn't repeat it but I find this more embarrassing for the country than debilitating for my ability to get started.

Question

00:18:10 - 00:18:26 ()

And then secondly I want to follow up with you on the vaccine. If the FDA gives emergency authorization to the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine in the coming weeks will you get vaccinated? And if you are hesitant why should any American have confidence in the vaccine?

Joe Biden

00:18:26 - 00:18:43 ()

Well, first of all we will see if that comes forward and secondly it's important that people who are in the greatest need get it. I wouldn't hesitate to get the vaccine but I also want to set an example and but I -- I wouldn't hesitate to get the vaccine if in fact Dr. Fauci and these two organizations whether it's Moderna or Pfizer who have been extremely responsible conclude that it is safe and able to be done.

Joe Biden

00:18:43 - 00:19:01 ()

Look, the only reason people question the vaccine now is because of Donald Trump. That is the reason why people are questioning the vaccine because all of the things he says and doesn't say, is it truthful, is it not truthful the exaggerations? I think we are on a clear path now. We are on a clear path with the international community and national leaders in the scientific community have focused on these two vaccines.

Joe Biden

00:19:01 - 00:19:13 ()

They appear to be ready for prime time, ready to be used and if that continues along those roads I would take the vaccine.

Question

00:19:13 - 00:19:14 ()

Question

00:19:14 - 00:19:29 ()

Thank you Mr. President-Elect. You have been urging the American public to continue practicing social distancing and wearing a mask but with cases skyrocketing across the country do you think that more governors should be closing nonessential businesses and reinstating stay-at-home orders?

Joe Biden

00:19:29 - 00:20:18 ()

Look, it depends on the state. What I -- what I failed to mention earlier is the -- the enormous respect I have for Republican conservative Republican governors who stepped up and issued mandates for wearing mask in North Dakota you know I mean the idea -- one of the leaders in this area has been the Republican governor, Republican -- Republican governor in Ohio, and in addition to the folks who have already been leading like the governor of Michigan I mean you know the idea that the president's now existing remaining advisor on COVID is saying that they should resist, what the hell is the matter with these guys?

Joe Biden

00:20:18 - 00:20:40 ()

What is the matter with them? Resist. You know every major individual of any consequence in the health field is saying we can save -- we can save 100,000 lives just between now and January 21 by wearing these masks. It's going to take a while for the vaccine to be able to be available and distributed and get to people.

Joe Biden

00:20:40 - 00:21:19 ()

We are talking about 350 to 400,000 people dying. I mean what are they doing? It is totally irresponsible, irresponsible and so I complement the governors who have stepped forward, who have been stepping forward but also Republican governors who stepped forward. I -- I left out the governor of Utah, very conservative state, governor of North Dakota and all of the Democratic governors who have been doing it all along I mean it's -- I just ask a rhetorical question do you guys understand this?

Joe Biden

00:21:19 - 00:21:52 ()

Does anybody understand why a governor would turn this into a political statement? It's about patriotism, it's about being patriotic, it's about saving lives for real I'm not -- this is not hyperbole. It's about being patriotic and I think you are seeing more and more as this god-awful virus continues to spread almost unabated that governors are stepping up.

Question

00:21:52 - 00:22:09 ()

Just following up on that especially with many states reporting new highs in terms of the daily number of cases and a lot of public health officials sounding the alarm over the holidays would you -- what is your message to people who are considering for example getting together with their families and others for Thanksgiving?

Question

00:22:09 - 00:22:12 ()

Would you consider -- would you urge people to reconsider their plans?

Joe Biden

00:22:12 - 00:22:51 ()

Well here is what I would do and let me tell you what the health experts have said to me and it's not because I am unique in president -- like, it's because of my family. They strongly urge that if in fact we are going to have Thanksgiving with anyone that we limit it to a maximum -- maximum they suggest five people, maximum of 10 people socially distanced wearing masks and people who have quarantined so Jill and I spent this morning, like many of you, trying to figure out what are we going to do for Thanksgiving, how are we going to do it?

Joe Biden

00:22:51 - 00:23:17 ()

We have narrowed down which family members and that they were tested, recently tested within 24 hours and so I would strongly urge for the sake not just your sake, for the sake of your children your mother, your father, your sisters, your brothers whoever you get together at Thanksgiving think about this there should be no more than 10 people in one room and I mean -- inside the homes.

Joe Biden

00:23:17 - 00:23:46 ()

That is what they are telling me. They are telling me they are you know making sure that that's the case and I have the more potent mask behind this one, I took off when I came out here, I wear it inside this, you have to be masked. It saves lives and so look, I just want to make sure that we are able to be together next Thanksgiving, next Christmas.

Joe Biden

00:23:46 - 00:24:13 ()

I mean it is an international crisis. It is an international health crisis and the idea war -- war the virus and it is we are at war for real. And all kidding aside I hope all of you I want you all you all seem to where mask all of the time when you are in the group that follows me that is here -- follows me, that is assigned to Delaware with me seem to do that.

Joe Biden

00:24:13 - 00:24:16 ()

I strongly urge you to do it. There's nothing macho about not wearing a mask.

Question

00:24:16 - 00:24:17 ()

Unidentified

00:24:17 - 00:24:28 ()

One last question. Lisa?

Question

00:24:28 - 00:24:37 ()

Thank you Mr. President-Elect, Madam Vice President-Elect. Your plan -- my mask is stuck on my earring. Wait a second [Inaudible] .

Joe Biden

00:24:37 - 00:24:41 ()

I watched Jill tried to take it off it's hard I think -- I don't have an earring.

Question

00:24:41 - 00:25:09 ()

Your plan that you have outlined just now about 1 million union jobs, clean energy jobs, investments in HBCU's, those are things that take time. We have a problem with long-term unemployment that is growing fast right now. What would you do right away specifically to address jobs that may not return for months, may not return ever including in communities of color?

Joe Biden

00:25:09 - 00:25:34 ()

What I would do I would pass the HEROES Act. It has all of the money and capacity to take care of each of those things now, now. Not tomorrow now and the idea the president is still playing golf and not doing anything about it is beyond my comprehension. You at least think he would want to go off on a positive note but what is he doing?

Joe Biden

00:25:34 - 00:26:14 ()

And there is virtually no discussion. And they Republican we are told I don't know that it's true you may know, Senator I think there is 22 Republicans say they won't vote for anything. There ought to be at least -- at least a dozen of them have the courage to stand up and save lives and jobs now. We should be doing it now, keeping those businesses open, providing the PPE, the protective equipment as well as the PPP, the money that we allow people to get funding to keep their businesses open, everything from separation to testing to a whole range of things that allow businesses to open and stay open.

Joe Biden

00:26:14 - 00:26:36 ()

That is what the plan was at the beginning and by the way if you noticed in the very beginning when they passed stimulus program the first two pieces what happened? Businesses were staying open and when they weren't open they were still able to people able to get paid but look where they are now, people are running out of unemployment insurance.

Joe Biden

00:26:36 - 00:26:58 ()

What are they going to do? 20 million people are on the verge of losing their home because they can't make a mortgage payment. You have a larger number being kicked out -- will be kicked out in the street because they can't pay their rent. By the way, it's not just a renter. It's the -- it's the outfit that owns the building.

Joe Biden

00:26:58 - 00:27:19 ()

A lot of them aren't multimillionaires. They're running small operations. How can they do it? This is about keeping Americans afloat, get them through this pandemic, get them through where they still -- their businesses are able to come back. The money's there. The money is there.

Question

00:27:19 - 00:27:44 ()

And also on the economic front, as we fight the pandemic world trade continues and there is great debate over world trade agreements, international trade agreements. It seems that we -- in the last couple of days, 15 countries, Asian Pacific countries, have signed on to a new trade deal, the RCEP. Should the United States consider joining that trade agreement?

Joe Biden

00:27:44 - 00:28:09 ()

I've talked with a number of these world leaders and I told them under the law I am not able to begin to discuss with them. There's only one president at a time as to who can say whatever policy will be. So, I'm reluctant to answer that question now, but here's what I can say. We make up 25 percent of the world's trading capacity, of the economy in the world.

Joe Biden

00:28:09 - 00:28:39 ()

We need to be aligned with the other democracies, another 25 percent or more, so that we can set the rules of the road instead of having China and others dictate outcomes because they are the only game in town. And so -- but what I'm insisting on and what I have been asked by world leaders as to what I would do, without getting into detail, I've said but I want you to know that there are three things going to happen if I'm elected.

Joe Biden

00:28:39 - 00:29:02 ()

One, we're going to invest in American workers and make them more competitive. Number two, we're going to make sure that labor is at the table and environmentalists are at the table in any trade deals we make. And I'm not looking for punitive trade. The idea that we are poking our finger in the eyes of our friends and embracing autocrats makes no sense to me.

Joe Biden

00:29:02 - 00:29:12 ()

And so -- but I'm reluctant to get in more detail at this moment. I promise you I have a pretty thorough plan, and I will be prepared to announce that to you on January 21st.

Question

00:29:12 - 00:29:18 ()

You have indicated changes you want to make in U.S. international policy on other fronts, like the Paris Climate --

Joe Biden

00:29:18 - 00:29:19 ()

-- Yes, that's --

Question

00:29:19 - 00:29:20 ()

Joe Biden

00:29:20 - 00:29:27 ()

-- A generic notion of rejoining, but I didn't get into the detail of what we'll do in that agreement, I -- the same thing with rejoining the World Health Organization.

Question

00:29:27 - 00:29:29 ()

But why not here?

Joe Biden

00:29:29 - 00:29:42 ()

Because you're -- you're asking me about whether I'd join a specific proposal, the details of which are now only being negotiated among those nations. It'll require a negotiation.

Question

00:29:42 - 00:29:43 ()

Joe Biden

00:29:43 - 00:29:48 ()

Thank you, appreciate it.