Transcript - CBS: Interview with Connie Chung and Donald Trump - February 24, 1990 | Factba.se

Connie Chung

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You might just consider our next story to be a unique artifact of the '80s, The Donald before the fall. It's conversation with Donald Trump literally just hours we believe before he told his wife Ivana that their marriage was over; just days before the name Marla Maples tickled the tongues of gossip columnists around the country, and only weeks before the Trump financial empire began to crack. What did Donald Trump know as he bravely strutted through our interview? What was to be his last public attempt to be invincible. Knowing what we know now, his answers are pretty interesting. See what you think.

Connie Chung

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Aren't you tired of Donald Trump and Ivana and all their marriage problems and private affairs? I mean, excuse me, who cares, right? I don't know what it's like in your city, but here in New York the fuss about the Trumps is ridiculous. Well, here's my story. I did an interview with The Donald just hours, we believe, before he dropped the bomb on Ivana. So, you see, I'm asking him questions with no idea of what's going on in his head. He knows his marriage is breaking up, I don't. But knowing what we know now his answers are kind of fascinating. The poignant pauses--is he squirming? Is he telling me less than the truth? You decide.

Donald Trump

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If you called up somebody else that you've never even heard of who's got great wealth and said I want to do an interview, number one, they'd be afraid to do it; number two, they wouldn't want to do it; number three, they wouldn't know how to do it; and number four, they're probably right.

Connie Chung

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They're probably right?

Donald Trump

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They're probably right.

Connie Chung

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What do you mean? They shouldn't?

Donald Trump

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Well, I think -- I think there's a nice safety net in not doing it. There's no reason to expose yourself to millions of people. There's no...

Connie Chung

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But you know why you do it.

Donald Trump

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Connie Chung

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You love the publicity.

Donald Trump

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Oh, I hate the publicity.

Connie Chung

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Oh, come on. Get out of here.

Donald Trump

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Oh, no. I'm telling you I hate the publicity.

Connie Chung

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Donald Trump

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I hate it and except for the fact that it's as fun as a sparring session, I mean, this would normally not even be fun. This is -- this is fine and this is fun and all that stuff, but ...

Connie Chung

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Oh, but come on. -- you're on all these covers ...

Donald Trump

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No, you don't understand.

Connie Chung

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... Playboy, Fame, I mean, Newsweek or Time.

Donald Trump

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You have to understand. It happens to be -- it happens to be -- well, both. It happens to be good for what I do.

Connie Chung

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What Donald Trump does, of course, is make a lot of money and make sure everybody knows it; a yacht, a mansion, a bigger mansion, an airline, two casinos, a bigger casino.

Donald Trump

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That is really incredible. There's nothing like it. There's nothing like this place.

Connie Chung

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By now, his possessions are more familiar to us than what we have hanging in our own closets. His buildings -- well, you know which ones they are.

Donald Trump

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I sell very great condominiums in New York. I have the best ...

Connie Chung

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They aren't that great. Come on.

Donald Trump

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What, the Trump Tower?

Connie Chung

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They're not the best. Maybe if you can try to answer this question without giving me the normal spiel ...

Donald Trump

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What is the normal spiel? I don't ...

Connie Chung

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Well, the normal spiel is when -- the fact is that many rich and powerful people do try to remain anonymous, but you became very public very clearly by your own design ...

Donald Trump

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I don't know if it was by my own design.

Connie Chung

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You mean the publicity?

Donald Trump

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I do developments which get a lot of publicity. I mean, if I didn't do Trump ...

Connie Chung

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Donald Trump

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I mean this. If Trump Tower weren't a great building on Fifth Avenue and 57th Street by a young guy ...

Connie Chung

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Trump Towers is one building in New York City with zillions of buildings.

Donald Trump

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Trump Towers was built by a young guy in a very important ...

Connie Chung

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That's because you know how to -- you know.

Donald Trump

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No, I don't think it was by design, though. I think that it happened, but I don't ...

Connie Chung

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You're sitting so innocent. Come on.

Donald Trump

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No. I want to be innocent. I've always wanted to be innocent. My entire life has been devoted to being innocent.

Connie Chung

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Just innocent? Is it little Donald?

Donald Trump

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But I don't know that it is by design. Did I once call you and say, Connie, we have to do an interview? We have to do this. It's great. It's going to be the greatest thing ...

Connie Chung

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OK, Donald Trump didn't call us, but he did do this interview just before an avalanche of publicity about his marriage descended on the empire he worked so skillfully to build. The invincibility of the Trump name is now bombarded by gossip about secret liaisons and bedroom prose. And the success of Trump the man is now the stuff for prenuptial pacts. Overnight it seems, America turned from a fascination of what Trump has to what he could lose.

Unidentified Reporter

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Do you wish we'd all go away?

Donald Trump

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Connie Chung

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What is the most important thing in your life?

Donald Trump

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I think generally speaking, family. I think that -- I think it's very important -- stability. I'd like to say continued economic success. You would always say the most important thing would be health for yourself and the people around you and the people that you love because that's -- that's ultimately the most important I think.

Connie Chung

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Do you have a best friend?

Donald Trump

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Well, I have so many different friends and it would be hard to say a best friend.

Connie Chung

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Is your wife Ivana a best friend?

Donald Trump

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She's -- she's a great friend, she's -- I have a father who's a great friend.

Connie Chung

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But is there somebody that you really confide in?

Donald Trump

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I -- I tend not to confide. I really tend not to confide. I'm very closed in that sense now. I think that's my own maybe guarded mechanism.

Connie Chung

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Is it that you don't trust people?

Donald Trump

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I don't trust people. I'm -- I'm a non-trusting person. I trust members of my family, I trust people that are very close to me.

Connie Chung

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But you know what, they also say never go into business with members of your family.

Donald Trump

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Oh, I agree. Going into business with family members is either the best or the worst. There's no in-between.

Connie Chung

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Well, your brother Robert is ...

Donald Trump

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Robert does a great job and Ivana runs the Plaza Hotel and she's doing a beautiful job.

Connie Chung

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So -- but you just said to me that you don't think that family members should.

Donald Trump

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No. No. I -- I generally think it's not a good policy but ...

Connie Chung

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But it works in your family?

Donald Trump

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... I also think -- it works in my family and I also think it's a great policy if it does work, but if for some reason it doesn't work out, there could be nothing worse.

Connie Chung

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How do you know it isn't going to go sour?

Donald Trump

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I don't. You never do.

Connie Chung

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What may sour on Donald Trump is that beautiful job he says his wife Ivana has done with the Plaza. How beautiful and how much could that be worth in any divorce settlement? Trump family and business have been together for a while. He started real estate with his father, himself a millionaire developer in Brooklyn and Queens. His older brother Fred was also in the business for a short time. He died at 43, the same age Donald is now.

Donald Trump

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I've seen people confide in the wrong people and it's really devastating. And, again, I don't say that as a positive ...

Connie Chung

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But do you think that stems from when you were a kid -- do you think? When you were a kid, did you have ...

Donald Trump

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No, I think it stems from the fact that I had a brother who -- who was an extraordinary guy. He was a -- an -- an absolutely brilliant personality. He was handsome, he was wonderful, people loved him, he was nice, he confided in everybody. He was truly a nice human being and people took advantage of him and I saw what they did to my brother and I didn't like it.

Connie Chung

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He gave of himself 100%.

Donald Trump

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He totally did. He totally gave of himself and he gave himself to other people.

Connie Chung

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Opened himself up.

Donald Trump

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He totally did and I tend to be just the opposite.

Connie Chung

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There's a marvelous innocence about that, though, isn't there?

Donald Trump

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There's something very beautiful about it. Unfortunately, when you're growing up in New York City and you're dealing with some of the great sharks of the world, especially in the real estate business, it's not very good. It was very bad in a business sense. He was -- he was taken advantage of.

Connie Chung

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He didn't want to go into business anyway.

Donald Trump

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He didn't want to. You're absolutely right. He didn't want to. He should not have, and perhaps it was my fault and perhaps my father's fault for egging him on to business because he wasn't good at it, because he didn't like the business ...

Connie Chung

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And you also encouraged him to go into business?

Donald Trump

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I did. I don't like to think too much about what happened with Fred. With Fred, it was an alcohol problem and it ultimately -- all of what I'm saying led to alcoholism and that indirectly just killed him. Fred used to tell me when I was very young, don't ever smoke -- don't ever smoke, don't ever drink. See, he had these problems. He knew what the problems were. He couldn't solve them for himself, but he tried to solve them for me.

Connie Chung

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Donald Trump doesn't smoke and doesn't drink. He gets by on four or five hours of sleep and gets up before dawn, a day that may end with as many as four social events a night.

Donald Trump

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I think I'm relatively happy. I'm content certainly. I'm not a man who walks around smiling and telling everybody I'm happy. I'm happy. Here I am. But I'm a pretty content guy.

Connie Chung

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Everybody's life is not perfect. What's missing in yours? What's wrong with you?

Donald Trump

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I really don't like to think about what's missing, you know? If you get into what's missing, you don't appreciate what you have and you can also say ...

Connie Chung

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But what -- what's -- what's wrong with you? There must be a little something that's wrong with it, you know, 'cause there's always something.

Donald Trump

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I'm always looking for more excitement in life. I look at life as one time -- here we are, it's a one-time go around. I'm always looking for more excitement. Oftentimes, I would not consider my life to be the most exciting time in the world and probably the world would tell me I'm crazy because I think the world's perception of me and my life is much different than that.

Connie Chung

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Is it meeting someone who impresses you?

Donald Trump

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No, it's not meeting someone. It's doing something. It's achieving something. It's -- it's the thrill of doing -- when I buy the Plaza Hotel, to me that's exciting because it's a trophy. It's a total trophy. When I build Trump Tower or when I build the Taj Mahal ...

Connie Chung

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Yeah, but you know it sounds like bobbles. Do you understand that?

Donald Trump

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Yeah, but it's exciting, and part of the reason it's exciting is because they're megadeals, they're important deals, they're glamorous deals. Everybody talks about them, everybody reads about them and writes about them. There's a level of importance there that I think also somewhat turns me on

Connie Chung

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Yeah, but how -- how is it important? It's not socially redeeming. It's not something ...

Donald Trump

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Well, you can say that, but in actuality thousands and thousands of people are put to work. Millions and hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes are paid and that ...

Connie Chung

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Yeah, but you're just building luxury hotels, luxury casinos. ..

Donald Trump

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But, Connie, all of that money ...

Connie Chung

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... you know, it's sort of the rich stuff and all.

Donald Trump

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I know. I know and I've also done non-luxury. I've done a lot of low-income housing, I've done a lot of senior citizens ...

Connie Chung

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That was a long time ago. That was back in '74.

Donald Trump

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Oh, you've -- you've read -- you've read my past.

Connie Chung

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Yeah, when you were working with your father.

Donald Trump

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But the truth is whether I build a Trump Tower or whether I build senior citizen housing -- I think Trump Tower in many respects is -- and I'm very proud of the senior citizen housing I built.

Connie Chung

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A long time ago, though. Not recently -- not recently.

Donald Trump

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Doesn't matter. I mean, it doesn't matter. Now, Connie ...

Connie Chung

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No, since you've made your Manhattan Trump millions or you're up to a billion -- more than a billion now ...

Donald Trump

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Connie Chung

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Donald Trump

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So, what are you asking me?

Connie Chung

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So, I'm asking you why not do more of that?

Donald Trump

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So, let me ask you -- I do a book and I get millions of dollars from the book. The book turned out to be like the biggest book of the year and I give all of that money to charity. I do a game, I do a game show, I do the Wallman's skating rink where the city incompetently for seven years can't open the rink.

Connie Chung

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What's a skating rink? Come on. What's a skating rink?

Donald Trump

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That's a very important thing. It's a part of society.

Connie Chung

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No, it isn't. Come on. It's a skating rink. Come on, I mean, a skating rink.

Donald Trump

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It's an important thing, you know. Sure, it's a skating rink, but in the meantime, you'd have half of New York City going crazy because they didn't have their little skating rink.

Connie Chung

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Do you really feel like a philanthropic person?

Donald Trump

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I feel very philanthropic. I really do.

Connie Chung

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Donald Trump

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And I'm a young guy ...

Connie Chung

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You know, people don't believe that.

Donald Trump

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Oh, I think people believe that. See, it gets to a point where some people can never be satisfied, Connie. Perhaps you're one of those people.

Connie Chung

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Actually, Trump himself never seems quite satisfied until he spots the next deal on the horizon. Why did you buy the Plaza?

Donald Trump

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Why did I buy it? Because it would have driven me crazy if anyone else owned it.

Connie Chung

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Donald Trump

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Because I'm looking at it every day. How would I feel if someone else owned it? Wouldn't that be a horrible feeling? You come to your office, you're looking at the most beautiful building that I've ever seen, the Plaza Hotel, and somebody else owns it. I'd feel guilty, so I had to buy it.

Connie Chung

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But -- but I look out on buildings all the time and I don't want to own them or ...

Donald Trump

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Well, it's a different mind-set.

Connie Chung

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If the San Francisco bridge were outside your window, would you say: Ah, I want to own that, too?

Donald Trump

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No, I guess not

Connie Chung

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But what about the other part of his life? His family? His three children?

Donald Trump

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I try to spend as much time with them as possible and I think that's important and I think they see and I think they also understand that my life is different than my -- and they're at an age now where they understand it. But I really spend as much time as you can spend under the circumstances in which I live.

Connie Chung

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You're able to peel away from work for a dinner?

Donald Trump

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Absolutely. I have to.

Connie Chung

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Donald Trump

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If my son calls me, as an example, I'll always take his call no matter what I'm doing. I mean, I'll always take his call. I always feel that it's very important to be really close with each other. The children are special.

Connie Chung

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You're son Donald Jr.?

Donald Trump

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Donald Jr. Any -- any one of my children. If any one of my children

Connie Chung

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Any of the other two?

Donald Trump

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If any one of my children call, I'll always take their call no matter what I'm doing.

Connie Chung

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I know that your parents brought you up with a good set of values. I -- I know that your sister had said that and your mother was a homemaker. Your children are growing up in an entirely different kind of family.

Donald Trump

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Connie Chung

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Do you think it is the family you want them to grow up in? Do you understand what I'm saying?

Donald Trump

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Well, I don't have a choice. I mean it's a family that's -- it's a good family, it's a good life. I think when Ivana -- I often say looks at Mar-a-Lago.

Connie Chung

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Donald Trump

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My daughter -- and she walks into the halls of Mar-a-Lago which is a home in Palm Beach that I bought in all fairness as an investment, but I. . .

Connie Chung

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More than 100 rooms?

Donald Trump

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Yeah. And -- and when she looks at its magnificence, you see this little girl and she looks up and she says -- you know, and -- and I just wonder what she must be thinking because it can't be a normal situation, but I think maybe it's as normal as it's going to get. I think she takes it for granted perhaps and maybe it's good or maybe that's not good, but to her it's a normal situation.

Connie Chung

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Don't you think it's probably not good?

Donald Trump

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I don't know. I'll tell you about it in 20 years after they grow up. I can't tell you now.

Connie Chung

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You could prevent yourself from buying the home in Palm Beach or the Cachexia Yacht and then your children wouldn't be exposed to this extraordinary ostentatious wealth.

Donald Trump

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Well, I don't know what ostentatious means. I mean, the Mar-a-Lago is considered architecturally one of the great places of this continent.

Connie Chung

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Yeah, but you know what I'm talking about.

Donald Trump

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The yacht is considered -- but -- but let me tell you, I don't do it for that reason. I do it as an investment. I mean, I buy the yacht ..

Connie Chung

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No, but aren't you concerned about the effect on your children?

Donald Trump

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Well, I -- no, because I don't think it has an effect. I think -- I think the effect on the children is seeing good parents, seeing this or seeing that. I don't think the effect on the children is whether they go into a big yacht or a small yacht or regular boat ...

Connie Chung

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Donald Trump

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... or something else, or whether it's a big house or a small house. I think that's not -- I mean, there are very many unhappy children that have a one-bedroom apartment -- that live in a one-bedroom apartment with their parents and . . .

Connie Chung

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I know, but you know what I'm talking about.

Donald Trump

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No, I understand, but I do it as an investment.

Connie Chung

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The kids are going to get -- the kids go on the yacht, don't they?

Donald Trump

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Sure they go on it, but very seldom. I do it as an investment. I don't need necessarily to live like this. I could be very happy living in a one-bedroom apartment believe me.

Connie Chung

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So why don't you just for the heck of it?

Donald Trump

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I might try it. I mean maybe -- maybe one of these days we'll give it a shot.

Connie Chung

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You're 43, you have a wife and three children, a lot of buildings, a lot of debt. Have you gone through your midlife crisis yet?

Donald Trump

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I think I've gone through my midlife crisis. I -- I really feel good about the way things are in life.

Connie Chung

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You have? You've gone through -- I mean the midlife crisis is very dramatic.

Donald Trump

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I don't think -- I don't think it's been a dramatic period for me. You know, I think men do have a midlife crisis. I don't think from my standpoint it's been a particularly dramatic period.

Connie Chung

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Donald Trump

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Maybe I haven't been there yet. I'm not sure that I'm really at midlife yet. I hope I'm not. So maybe I haven't been there yet. I'll make you a deal. If I do go through a midlife crisis, I'll call you and let you know. It will be very exciting.

Connie Chung

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He never called. So much for that. Well several months after his breakup with Ivana, estimates of his net worth were cut in half by Forbes magazine, then Trump defaulted on bonds used to finance his Atlantic City casinos. And then a bank bailout forced him to go on a monthly allowance. Word now is that his airline, his Palm Beach mansion, among other possessions, may be up for sale.